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Old 07-02-2006, 04:25 PM   #1
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Default Iraq is the biggest mistake of US's history

Should we get the troops out?

Are they doing more harm than good?

Check out this story where some US soldiers broke into a house raped a women then they killed her, burned her, and killed her family to cover it up.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060702/...kxBHNlYwN0bQ--
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Old 07-02-2006, 07:24 PM   #2
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Who cares ? I don't , your solider rape story is you yrying to justify pulling out of Iraq . It does not matter if you hate Bush , Hate the war , Hate that we are their . Guess what , we are their . Everything else does not matter . If we leave to soon who will assume the power vacuum . Iran , Al Sadr , who knows . The only thing that matters is that we keep people with self defeating anti-productive ideas like yourself out of power . For war or against war matters not to me . What we do now is what really matters , what has already happened is done and over .
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Old 07-02-2006, 11:30 PM   #3
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Who cares ? I don't , your solider rape story is you yrying to justify pulling out of Iraq . It does not matter if you hate Bush , Hate the war , Hate that we are their . Guess what , we are their . Everything else does not matter . If we leave to soon who will assume the power vacuum . Iran , Al Sadr , who knows . The only thing that matters is that we keep people with self defeating anti-productive ideas like yourself out of power . For war or against war matters not to me . What we do now is what really matters , what has already happened is done and over .
It's not my rape story. I'm not that niave.
I don't hate Bush. I dislike the ones gullable enough to vote for the embarrassment.
I don't hate the war. I just don't agree with it.
Who cares about a vacuum created if we leave. We've never fixed anything over there. We've only made it more hostile than it was?
The longer we're there, the more people hate us and want to become terrorists against us.
You're just afraid to admit that you voted for a useless cause. Don't be so pathetic! Wake up!
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Old 07-04-2006, 01:08 AM   #4
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Anyone who says the U.S. should just up and leave out of Iraq is extremely short sighted and foolish. That is just idiotic. As for the rape, it's not good. Happens everyday in the U.S. and Canada though. Not world news then.
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Old 07-04-2006, 03:05 AM   #5
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Default Re: Iraq is the biggest mistake of US's history

I think it is unfortunate that the news needs to play up a single rape case in a country where 150,000 + US troops are trying their best to fix thousands of years of neglect.
Place the number of troops in perspective and think that there are not going to be a couple incidents of rape or wrongful killing? Take any town USA with the same population where there isn't a war going on and this number is probably eclipsed every other day.
Then there needs to be evidence that this really happened. Anti American or just terrorist have learned that the US news will print anything without facts, so it is the nature of the crime that outweighs the truth and needs to be brought to the American People (plus stir the pot). Surprised Bill Burket didn’t write it with Dan Rather presenting it.

Then there is the perceived perspective on how the war is going. The fight for Iraq is over, it is done, they have a new government, parliament, and constitution. The next phase is removing the minority terrorist factions including Al Qaeda from disrupting the beginnings of this country. Transcripts pulled from Zarqawi didn’t sound like the terrorist were winning. Bin Laden’s most recent taped statement sounds the same, urging Iraqis terrorist groups to step up “the struggle to transform Iraq into the center of an Islamic Caliphate,” and his followers to keep up the fight against the US-led coalition in Baghdad, “else all the capitals in the region will fall to the crusaders.”

In my opinion the radical Islamic regimes fear a new self governing Iraq and are putting everything they have to derail it. So your question should be “Is the fight against terrorist in the middle east worth it?”
Just look at Israel and the Gaza Strip this week. Capitulation never has provided sustainable peace. Islam looks at it like a weakness and will do what they can to capitalize on it. Today the middle east (hey why give control to Al Qaeda the oil in the middle east), tomorrow Europe (ever wonder what was up with all of those “students” terrorizing the outskirts of Paris a couple months ago) then the word.
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Old 07-04-2006, 04:27 AM   #6
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Interesting the news doesn't report on the likely thousands of rapes and beatings that occur in Iraq by Iraqis daily either, where women in recent years and to this day have been basically treated like animals.....dirty worthless animals. It's not all that simple Nathan, although ignoring a major problem with humanity would be the easy way out, something had to be done. Perfect, no. Long term it will pay off, if the liberal biased media ever reported anything positive that goes on it could help, and as stated, many positive things have happened.
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Old 07-04-2006, 05:30 AM   #7
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You guys should all rent the movie "Why We Fight."
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Old 07-04-2006, 09:42 PM   #8
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Can you summarize it in 40 words or less? I'm very lazy....
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Old 07-04-2006, 10:18 PM   #9
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Can you summarize it in 40 words or less? I'm very lazy....
Your response would be what it is about. Nobody in America knows why they are fighting in Iraq. Must be a good reason. Terrrorists probably. Of course the US wouldn't be there for no good reason. Now where is my hamburger.
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Old 07-05-2006, 12:48 AM   #10
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It's a waste of time and money. We're there, so republicans can have an excuse to be in office.

Invasion of a poor country like Iraq is such a pathetic excuse for war. It would be different if the citizens there actually wanted us to be there. I can't believe that some actually believe we're there to do good. Wow, you'll are so hypnotized.
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