Moderators will be more active

Thierry Martin · 01-31-2008, 01:14 AM

Over the next few weeks moderators which previously worked behind the scenes will become more visible to the community. In the past almost all of their work was to filter out the large amount of spam that people and robots try to post. We moderate ALL new accounts until we feel confident that the new forum members aren't here just to post a link or hype a penny stock. Stuff still manages to get through because we're not perfect and people figure ways around the rules.

Over the last few weeks a new sport has developed here which involves forum bashing and personal attacks and insults and accusations directed at forum members and new users as well as me. It is especially harmful to the forum when new users feel intimidated because they see the rough treatment that others receive for being inexperienced in the world of trading.

It has been difficult to monitor and control the situation fairly. When we take action, those singled out feel picked on because they see other instances where we do nothing.

By allowing the moderators to take a more active role in the community I hope that the rules regarding our complete intolerance of disrespectful comments directed at fellow forum members or the administrators and moderators of the forum will be enforced consistently and fairly, so that the threads can stay on topic and visitors don't have to wade through endless back and forth name calling that has little if anything to do with trading or investing. We'll be using an infraction system with warnings and clearly defined penalties for breaking the rules. As the forum grows, so will our abilities to provide the resources to maintain a safe and civilized environment for the useful discussions that go on here.

reef · 01-31-2008, 02:18 AM

And who is moderating them? I already see one by them taunting users after deleting posts. Maybe I have had too much to drink to night but thats what it looked like to me.

aiki14 · 01-31-2008, 06:59 AM

You might mention to moderator King, that he should be more respectful. Snide comments from a person in a position of power are a more egregious violation of discourse than comments by equals. Maybe that particular moderator shouldn't take a more active role and should remain behind the scenes, or be dismissed.

Luc1Grunt · 01-31-2008, 08:10 AM

I see many "pumpers" have been beaten from this site...is that a bad thing?

I also see very intellectual posts handed out for free. My time is worth $$$$, but I do it for FREE.

I recall very few "new posters" who were treated badly that didn't later turn out to be shills.

You cited that you received "several" e-mails from newbs claiming I was "mean", then when called on it, produced a general note from CARLJ. He was apologized to by me and Aiki.

You stood by as Prodigy did his work.

The statement "lately" in regards to forum bashing is untrue. This has been going on since 2005 and you yourself stated it was "natural" when defending those later exposed as shills.

Can you honestly tell me that my posts have not been informative for "new" traders? I don't consider "informative" as throwing out picks. To each his own, but it's not my style.

You've got about 12 posters who keep this site alive. The vacuum gets filled by pumpers when the "experience" leaves. Maybe this is your point?

My posts do not point to a link, they call a spade a spade, they expose shills, and they share well-earned trading knowledge.

I guess that is unacceptable?

Delete as needed.

By the way.....don't you remember why TCG left in the first place? You defended those bashing his picks. Memory is a fine form of energy. Upgrade to at least a 2g for more benefits.

Thierry Martin · 01-31-2008, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by aiki14

You might mention to moderator King, that he should be more respectful. Snide comments from a person in a position of power are a more egregious violation of discourse than comments by equals. Maybe that particular moderator shouldn't take a more active role and should remain behind the scenes, or be dismissed.

Don King explains he was trying to disarm the tense dialogue by introducing some humor into the situation. Clearly this did succeed for everybody. Perhaps limiting the moderators comments to private messages would be more conducive to working out any problems we are having.

Thierry Martin · 01-31-2008, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by reef

And who is moderating them? I already see one by them taunting users after deleting posts. Maybe I have had too much to drink to night but thats what it looked like to me.

Don King did not delete any posts. I guess you had too much to drink!

netwrangler · 01-31-2008, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Thierry Martin

Don King explains he was trying to disarm the tense dialogue by introducing some humor into the situation. Clearly this did succeed for everybody. Perhaps limiting the moderators comments to private messages would be more conducive to working out any problems we are having.

Good idea, T.
I could see that 'King' was trying for humor. But in that thread, it's pretty difficult to create a light mood. I saw King's post as ineffective at best and offensive at worst.

And Aiki's right, any comments from the power folks [you and the moderators] need to be strictly neutral. Hard to do and remain human, I know.

[I was going to say, "But that's why you get the Big Bucks

" Thought it would be a light-hearted joke. Then thought better of it, not wanting to have you or readers interpret that as a slur on your name. Then figured I should do this parenthetical paragraph. All this just shows how the freedom and creativity factor in the forum gets limited by all the bickering.]

Thierry Martin · 01-31-2008, 12:16 PM

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