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godoftrading
11-20-2008, 01:23 PM
Where is Paulson with his bailout money? They need billions now!
Horsefish
11-20-2008, 02:27 PM
What do you think about an announcement over the weekend that GS and C will merge? It's been in the news before and from the looks of C today, something is going to have to happen. That would probably drop GS quite a bit from here. Just a thought.
What do you think about an announcement over the weekend that GS and C will merge? It's been in the news before and from the looks of C today, something is going to have to happen. That would probably drop GS quite a bit from here. Just a thought.
My question would be, why would GS want to merge with C? C is one of the most poorly run companies with a awful business model. JPM buys C or C goes under. With that being said I dont see how GS can survive. GS and MS should merge to buy some time.
jacobnbr1
11-20-2008, 08:30 PM
I think they should all just.....DIE PIGS DIE!
clavocat
11-21-2008, 12:41 AM
My question would be, why would GS want to merge with C? C is one of the most poorly run companies with a awful business model. JPM buys C or C goes under. With that being said I dont see how GS can survive. GS and MS should merge to buy some time.
Ignorance rears its' head again, why would Citi merge with Goldman when it has its' own investment bank. If Citi were to fall hard, the government would bail them out instantly, too big to fail imo. Lou do you know anything about Citi? Do you realize their presence? They don't just make bad investments that was about 5% of the company, the GTS portion of Citi has been growing for the past 19 quarters. I personally believe Vikram is a good CEO but that's my 2 cents.
Ignorance rears its' head again, why would Citi merge with Goldman when it has its' own investment bank. If Citi were to fall hard, the government would bail them out instantly, too big to fail imo. Lou do you know anything about Citi? Do you realize their presence? They don't just make bad investments that was about 5% of the company, the GTS portion of Citi has been growing for the past 19 quarters. I personally believe Vikram is a good CEO but that's my 2 cents.
Hey Moron, pay attention, who said C and GS should merge? We are all glad you 'personally believe' in the CEO, keep that belief as the stock keeps falling. In fact, put your money where your mouth is and buy buy. Take your 'ignorant head' back into the classroom. If the govt comes in and bails them out they have failed. Clavocat - dont you know anything?
clavocat
11-22-2008, 05:30 PM
Hey Moron, pay attention, who said C and GS should merge? We are all glad you 'personally believe' in the CEO, keep that belief as the stock keeps falling. In fact, put your money where your mouth is and buy buy. Take your 'ignorant head' back into the classroom. If the govt comes in and bails them out they have failed. Clavocat - dont you know anything?
Lou no need for personal attacks, "Moron". Please explain to me why Citi is at 3 dollars from $13? Maybe because they are an easy attack for manipulating short sellers...The company's fundamentals hasn't changed to give it a 3 dollar price tag. Did you look over the town hall meeting presentation and see how they are in no worse, if anything better than other banks. Your call is unjustified, that is ignorance. :top:
Survivor
11-22-2008, 06:15 PM
Struck a Nerve... :pcguru:
smartinvestor30
11-23-2008, 12:40 AM
Where is Paulson with his bailout money? They need billions now!
Goldman has people all over the place, I wonder what paulson is doing behind the scenes to make sure they don't fail.
cramerica1972
11-23-2008, 12:49 AM
Goldman has people all over the place, I wonder what paulson is doing behind the scenes to make sure they don't fail.hanky panky paulson is a CROOK,he was with GS when the mess started,now he's acting like a firefighter putting out an arson blaze he started.he needs to be hung by his balls.
jrobbins
11-23-2008, 01:20 AM
Where's aiki14? No reply in the other GS thread. He probably bought GS all the way down to $53 .. then buy 'n hold till it's $4. :mrgreen: aiki14, the Mr. Winner
Ba ba ba BOOOOYAH! :top:
Survivor
11-23-2008, 05:52 AM
They are losing their edge after the Hi-Jack and manipulation of commodity prices.
Maybe Barrons, and WSJ will write another horror story for them,
oil up to $200 a barrel? nat gas to 16, Gold to $2000 an ounce?
The stock will go up when they market some new manipulation.
Bolimomo
11-24-2008, 01:58 PM
Goldie's revenge. WIth a vengence.
$48 Friday low. This morning's high of $68. Ulch!!!
jacobnbr1
11-24-2008, 09:01 PM
hanky panky paulson is a CROOK,he was with GS when the mess started,now he's acting like a firefighter putting out an arson blaze he started.he needs to be hung by his balls.
Yaknow ol jim crammer was wit GS too?
Bolimomo
11-25-2008, 11:29 AM
I think they should all just.....DIE PIGS DIE!
Flying pig. :) Goldie hit almost 75. Third day of a bullish move from low of 48. :(
aiki14
11-29-2008, 12:40 PM
Where's aiki14? No reply in the other GS thread. He probably bought GS all the way down to $53 .. then buy 'n hold till it's $4. :mrgreen: aiki14, the Mr. Winner
Ba ba ba BOOOOYAH! :top:
A guy calls for down plays in a down market, and thinks he's he's a genius. Booyah back at ya buddy, 5 up days in a row, GS up 50% since your call.
psychOnAcycle
11-29-2008, 02:01 PM
Lou no need for personal attacks, "Moron". Please explain to me why Citi is at 3 dollars from $13? Maybe because they are an easy attack for manipulating short sellers...The company's fundamentals hasn't changed to give it a 3 dollar price tag. Did you look over the town hall meeting presentation and see how they are in no worse, if anything better than other banks. Your call is unjustified, that is ignorance. :top:
Very true, and with out the govt intervetion it would have been a short sellers dream just like in july when everyfinancial was getting beat up. I honestly though the govt would have put the uptick rule back inplace or banned financials shorts agian that monday morining not restructured their ballance sheet and gave them money...so to buy at $3 was the time to BUY BUY BUY...so i did betting on govt intervention...my problem was i put stop @$6, i didnt for see it heading up like this..past $8 in such a short time
Bolimomo
11-29-2008, 06:24 PM
Goldie went from a low of 49-48 to a high of 81 before droppign back to 79-78 on Friday. That's quite a respectable rally by any measure. If you have caught this ride, I bow to you!
The last time, $80 seems to be a support. It was broken when GS went lower. Support turns Resistance once broken. As it bounced back from a high of 81. For whatever the reason the market held up GS (probably it was just because of the bear trap for the broad market), I am interested to short at the $80 level if Goldie looks weak next Monday. But guard my position carefully.
I think to be successful trading is not to be a perma-bear or a perma-bull all the time. In Goldie, Bears were right, and Bulls were right too! They just were right at different times. I want to side with the Bulls or the Bears whenever the prevailing wind blows.
Be a bull. Be a bear. Just don't be a sheep! :sheep::sheep::sheep:
Pessimism has no bottom. Euphoria has no ceiling.
jrobbins
11-29-2008, 08:45 PM
Whoa, aiki14 indeed is the Mr. Winner! You must've been averaging down since 120 and buying like crazy and you must've bought at the low 49!!! Your account must've gained +50% profit in 4 days. You are such a genius!!! Amazing!!! I worship you, Mr. Winner! woohoo lol
Please buy more GS! Going to $800 beating GOOG high in 2007.
A guy calls for down plays in a down market, and thinks he's he's a genius. Booyah back at ya buddy, 5 up days in a row, GS up 50% since your call.
ZaNoob
11-29-2008, 11:51 PM
Aiki is a very savvy investor. He might have been down slightly as the markets fell but you can bet on the slightest bounce he made a killing.
aiki14
11-30-2008, 02:02 PM
Aiki is a very savvy investor. He might have been down slightly as the markets fell but you can bet on the slightest bounce he made a killing.
Thanks for the kind words, unfortunately... GS kicked my ass. I was really quite wrong in my belief they would never break 120, 100, 80 ... If I look back I am down on the totality of my GS plays for the year. Bought heavily at DOW 8000 on 10 oct and a week and a half ago, and that has made up for a lot of times I was down side stopped on GS positions. I am still a believer in the smartest guys on the street, and that the market must gain back a modicum of rationality.
However I have been in this game a while and I am disciplined in my stops, and I always use position or portfolio hedges. I wont make more money in '08 than'07, but I had my best month in Jan '08.
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