View Full Version : Internet security
aiki14
10-09-2008, 08:36 PM
I learned a couple of things today. I am not really up on the whole technology of the internet, but my friend Chris is a genius when it comes to this stuff. The first thing I learned is that every time you visit some websites, the website notes your computers unique identity or IP address. This is so you can't create multiple accounts, or multiple identities on RPG's and use up bandwidth on the site. The websites say they never release the info to anyone, or they promise not to sell it, but gov'ts, the police, or apparently anybody who sounds official can easily get the info.
No big deal right?
But then take that individual identity and plug it in to a certain website and it'll give you a google map satellite image like you plugged in an intersection on mapquest. Some servers say they prevent this, but Chris says they can break through every domestic server and locate any computer connected by land line to any server. Then once they know where you are they can trap anything you might do, like credit card purchases, or embarrassing websites you might visit. Encryption only covers some data but the places you surf to are not encrypted, and more stuff than you would imagine is not encrypted.
So if you think you're protected because you use some fake name like joe_sixpack12 to avoid identification or to protect your location forget it.
It's scary actually.
freakscene
10-09-2008, 09:18 PM
http://www.torproject.org/
:)
aiki14
10-09-2008, 10:06 PM
http://www.torproject.org/
:)
:)
freakscene
10-09-2008, 10:45 PM
i recommend it to all my friends
beats free proxy servers
;)
aiki14
10-09-2008, 10:58 PM
i recommend it to all my friends
beats free proxy servers
;)
So the claim that Tor is used by child porn slimeballs is correct then.
From ZDNet
Hacker builds tracking system to nab Tor pedophiles
"Amidst concerns that pedophiles are using public Tor (the Onion Router) servers to trade in child pornography, über-hacker HD Moore is building a tracking system capable of pinpointing specific workstations that searched for and downloaded sexual images and videos of kids."
Hirsch
10-10-2008, 12:58 AM
I believe AOL had an incident two years back about leaked search results directly linked to users (http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/09/20/HNaolsearch_1.html). Using the methods you showed Aiki, any of those AOL users could have been located from the stored/leaked data by anyone. From what I remember, some of the user's lives were pretty much ruined. Let's hope to whatever higher power we trust these companies storing our search data. ( The Wiki is so-so I guess (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AOL_search_data_scandal).)
Yahoo's little debacle with China is another good example of user content being stored and examined, but that's a bit more open. Internet Security becomes a real problem when going into other countries; if you can find a way to distinguish where the site and server are, do it. =/ Or just use a proxy as previously shown.
Makes you a little suspicious about who has interests in these search engines. And how long your file with the CI-oops, I mean NSA and FBI is. :wink:
Jelly
10-10-2008, 03:26 AM
I delete anything google. fu*k them!
zyzzyva57
10-10-2008, 07:23 AM
Every email you ever wrote still exists in cyberspace (as many hotshots of Wall Street and hotshots of the government discover)
Regardless, how hard you try to hide your internet activities, they can be discovered, beginning with simply going to View > Page Source
My Career Associate's Internet Security Suite also gives me more skinny on a web site
Google / M$ / Yahoo are only a small problem when you consider using a paid database, I can discover EVERYTHING about you--e.g., your Social Security Card #, bank accounts, real time satellite photos of where you live, etc--depending upon the amount of money I wish to spend (Click (https://www.locateplus.com/welcome.asp) for an example of one of the best paid services)
Deleting does NOT delete a file on your hard drive: when you delete, what you do is destroy the "file card," the "book" still exists on your hard drive -- Why, if you notice, when you see a "perp walk," you will note the cops taking out the computers -- A full delete takes a lot of work and with cops knocking on your door, this is too late
Imagine now what can be done if you operate from a foreign country and don't have to worry about the law...
What can you do?
Freeze your credit
DAILY, check your bank/credit card accounts
Visit no web site you do not EVER want discovered
Open no email you are unsure of, particularly jokes, etc, with a zillion other email addresses--yours get added
Opening an email verifies your existence, by the way
Run FREE programs to delete spyware
Even with ligit sites, make sure you do not click it can share your address with sponsors, who may not be legit
"Cloud Computing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing)" really opens you up for discovery
freakscene
10-10-2008, 07:33 AM
Regardless, how hard you try to hide your internet activities, they can be discovered, beginning with simply going to View > Page Source
i agree that "internet security" is an oxymoron, but i dont believe this is accurate.
view source shows the html content of a page you are visiting.
useful information can be gained by studying it, but the information is not end user/history related. its related to the coding of the web page, and sometimes scripts/paths/ and other goodies...............
unless i'm missing something ;)
zyzzyva57
10-10-2008, 07:49 AM
If you drill down into a web page, you will note tracking coding, e.g., search for cookies on your computer, planting cookies, etc
These have to have an origin and they begin here
This is why running weekly FREE anti spyware is so crucial
Legit sites warn you, but bad sites don't, e.g., porn sites
Take this period . (http://www.onlinetradersforum.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=150687) and though I have added nothing bad, imagine someone opening up a chain joke, and hiding that period in such a way it will get clicked-- say I white it out and you never know you have clicked something or had something planted on your computer
concrete
10-10-2008, 12:47 PM
Two words: proxy server
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