Israeli terrorism

[InvestingMoron]

Get ready for some major changes in the next 48 hours. Israel has taken the task of starting WW3 to the Lebanese by bombing their airport, blockading their ports, and killing innocent women and children.

Don't be surprised when Hezbollah and Lebanon, Palestine and Iran decide to exact justice on the Israeli terrorists.

Millenia of oppression against the Palestinians is coming to a head and will culminate within the next month. Mark my words. Since the inception and formation of an illegal state in 1948 they have raped and tortured Palestinians, stole their land, destroyed their houses and markets. Not to mention picking war after war with several nations, then running and hiding behind the US to protect and defend it.

Enough is enough. Mahmoud, you have permission to fire :)

[aiki14]

And thems the ones what killed jesus right? You lose all credibility with the confederate flag, symbol of an american embarrassment, racism and, foolishness trashing the Israeli's. And I'm no defender of their policy (unlike our president) or even their right to the territory, they should have gotten Suriname instead, but you know all that bible stuff, something about them being the original owners and some holy stuff. The whole thing boils down to two groups professing claims to the land based on religious nonsense. And your opinion investingmoron probably boils down to the same nonsense.

[NATHAN LLOYD]

I agree with you here on Israel. I really don't think many presidents would veto the UN when it comes to stopping Israel from terrorizing all of their neighbors. Israel was the reason for 9-11, and anyone who thinks otherwise is naive. Don't leave Bush out of this. I don't know if it will be WWIII will occur, but it will be a large middle east war. I could see it spreading to China, N. Korea, Russia, & Europe if things didn't work out right.

[aiki14]

It's not gonna spread anywhere, none of the other arab countries really care about the Palestinians, if they did there wouldn't be in Gaza camps. And none of the sheiks are gonna risk the caviar and american prostitutes by tangling with the Israeli's, and the Iranians are happy to let the Palestinians cause trouble for their stated enemy but they aren't the right kind of muslims to really care about.

[Will]

who's got our back?

I'm thinking U.S., Israel, England, India, Japan verse all.

[InvestingMoron]

You lose all credibility with the confederate flag, symbol of an american embarrassment, racism and, foolishness trashing the Israeli's.

So, I'm now an embarrassment, a racist, and a fool for being proud of my history?

Perhaps you should take some time and reflect on what makes you who/what you are aiki14. Are you proud of who/what you are?

Before you go about trashing my heritage and intelligence, I would like you to consider thinking about what you say before you spew it. I don't make idiotic remarks about your avatar, nor do I judge your intelligence or ethnic morals on it. I could reduce myself to that level, but I think I'm better than that.

I'm off to fry some bacon :)

[aiki14]

The attempt by the south to leave the union IS an embarrassment, your avatar is a symbol of racism and your heritage is that. What makes me who I am is not the deeds of some distant ancestor but my deeds every day and I am content with who I am, pride is one of your deadly sins isn't it? When I put a swastika or hammer and sickle as my avatar you can go and make judgements cause it's justified, those are patently offensive as is yours. The south would be a third world country if we let you secede, we didn't fight a war we mounted a rescue and you're incapable of seeing it.
Maybe you don't understand the concepts here, or you're too inculcated in your culture to see above it.

[Will]

do you stand for slavery or a seperated union with greater state's rights or both?

The distinction can be easily made by answering that question.

[GDFLS]

It's not gonna spread anywhere, none of the other arab countries really care about the Palestinians, if they did there wouldn't be in Gaza camps. And none of the sheiks are gonna risk the caviar and american prostitutes by tangling with the Israeli's, and the Iranians are happy to let the Palestinians cause trouble for their stated enemy but they aren't the right kind of muslims to really care about.

BINGO! The Paestinians have been used by the surrounding arab contries as a rally cry and a reason for terrorism.

All this nonsense over dirt and sand, and why? Just cause they beleive that God intended it for them...what arrogance on both sides.

There are places there that are held holy by Christians as well. If these Christian holy places would be destroyed I would be saddened and would go on knowing God is really in my own heart, not at some exact point on Earth.

[madcowdisease]

Don't worry yourself an ulcer InvestingMoron; the USA is not going to get involved. Our military is stretched too thin to begin with or we'd already be in N. Korea and Iran.

[NATHAN LLOYD]

Don't worry yourself an ulcer InvestingMoron; the USA is not going to get involved. Our military is stretched too thin to begin with or we'd already be in N. Korea and Iran.

I usually respect your remarks, but I guess I'm being argumentative. We could do what Will said. We only sent 20% of our military to Iraq, and with just that we could take out a couple middle eastern nations. The military that is there now is bored as hell trying to watch for potential bomb threats. They'd love to see more action. Combine what we could do with Britain, Israel, and Japan, and we could do what Will said. There is no way we have our military spread too thin in Iraq! This is a stupid rumor. I hope you don't take offense to what I said.

Even saying this, I by no means want us to start a war. It would be stupid, and take out half the population of the world with a nuclear catastrophe. I don't think we'll go to war past what we've done now. It makes no sense, and it's hard enough for the Republicans to tread water defending themselves over the mess they've made of Iraq.

[InvestingMoron]

I just don't get how some of you are so encompassed in your own beliefs that you take the opinion of another and denounce his intelligence based on an avatar.

Take my opinion at face value, either you agree with what I say or you don't. It's not like we're face-to-face and it's a matter of life or death. I'd like to think that we (on this forum) have the balls to say what we want and to respect each others opinions without a great deal of personal attacks.

Agree with me or not, the facts are that Israel attacked Lebanon. Innocent Lebanese and Palestinians are being murdered by Israel's aggression. There are 25k US citizens in Lebanon with no way out because the runways are useless.

My avatar is a historic symbol, rich in tradition and pride. Most people do not understand the South and what it stood for. Some people from the West coast and Northeast just don't understand. I really don't care to get in this discussion about why I have my avatar as it is, but if you insist:

Slavery shouldn't be exacted on anyone. Yes, my ancestors did own several hundred slaves in Louisiana, in the same parish (county) that I am originally from. I do believe that each state should be able to have a greater influence than it currently has, mainly with the Second Amendment and economic reform. Separate nations; not so sure about. East and West Germany would be a good allusion to the US in 1860.

I make myself who I am every day, with every decision I make. Being from the South is a God-given privilege, and having a Southern upbringing is quite helpful when dealing with several hundred people on a daily basis, as my job requires. Most here can easily note the difference of attitude and willingness to extend a helping hand vice those of the locals.

Also, if "we" (meaning you were part of the Union or a Union state) mounted a "rescue", please enlighten me as to what year and number state Hawaii joined the Union?

[Svenwulf]

As a west coast liberal who respects the hospitality and work ethic of the modern south, i enjoy the ability of our freedom of speech to prove a persons intelligence and ability. I think investingmoron makes some good points and also some flawed ones. I am not trying to pick a fight, but rather exchange ideas.

I noted something about states rights, provoked from an earlier reply. I abhor firerms, but insist on 2nd amend protection, because our founding fathers understood that the government must ultimatley be responsible to the people. It is true firearm regs have become a states issue. But this quickly leads to a slippery slope. For example, if we (let's say) californians dont like (let's say) your texans guns/gun laws, we still abide by them. So what happens when (let's say) a married gay couple from mass evokes their state's rights?

I think of states as middle managers, when they get too big for their britches, bad things usually happen in the company.

[InvestingMoron]

Boy, what I'd give to hear BOOYAHOOO's take on this one........

[madcowdisease]

I usually respect your remarks, but I guess I'm being argumentative. We could do what Will said. We only sent 20% of our military to Iraq, and with just that we could take out a couple middle eastern nations. The military that is there now is bored as hell trying to watch for potential bomb threats. They'd love to see more action. Combine what we could do with Britain, Israel, and Japan, and we could do what Will said. There is no way we have our military spread too thin in Iraq! This is a stupid rumor. I hope you don't take offense to what I said.

Even saying this, I by no means want us to start a war. It would be stupid, and take out half the population of the world with a nuclear catastrophe. I don't think we'll go to war past what we've done now. It makes no sense, and it's hard enough for the Republicans to tread water defending themselves over the mess they've made of Iraq.

I'm not pissed Nate, it's cool, these boards are for expostulation.

To answer your question I don't see anyone willing to join the USA in a war with Iran; Europe are pussies and the UN's hands are tied through the legislation that governs the institution. If it came to fisticuffs China and Russia would probably take Iran's side since it is in their economic interest (China for the oil rights, and Russia sells them uranium and technology). So obviously we'd need more troops than we have now and more than a volunteer army can provide. Dare I say draft?

Also, we all know, as I do personally, about National Guard troops being sent to fight over there. We have a presence in Korea on the most fortified border in the world, a bunch of troops in Afghanistan, the bulk of forces in Iraq, and still have troops stationed in Germany. The USA is all over and as evidenced by the fact servicemen and women are being called back three and four times over I feel confident saying we're stretched too thin or else we wouldn't be using the Guard. There may be enough to get the current job done, though some want you to believe otherwise, but tackling another project such as N. Korea or Iran would, without a doubt, be too much for an all volunteer military.

Ergo, we're not going to war unless we are attacked because no President wants to be the one to reinstate the draft. Ain't gonna happen.

[InvestingMoron]

The icing on the cake is that the military is bent on downsizing. With all the regional conflicts occurring, deployment of troops and such, I can't understand why we're downsizing. It seems to me as though we're putting ourselves in a predicament because we're kicking some people out of the military left and right, and others (some AD in Iraq) are forced to extend their tours there.

The odds of me getting sent to the desert are none, due to my job in the military. I think it's absolutely ridiculous for us to be letting go of so many, yet remaining present on so many fronts. Really, why do we need people in Germany? Italy? Japan? I can understand the need for a quick response should the need arise.....

We've got a helluvalot of restructuring to do before we even think about moving on to our next conquest.

[Will]

I was born and raised in arkansas and lived here for 25 years, so don't think I'm dissing the south or your heritage, because I come from similar lines. I don't have a problem with your avatar, as I'm very used to seeing it down here. I was merely intermediating with a question as to why you have it. Many fly that flag because they believe minorities are lesser beings, others fly it because they assosciate themselves with that of being a "Rebel".

You seem well educated, so it wouldn't be a question, however the quote "Lee surrendered, I did not" leaves questions in the air about who you are and what you believe. That was the point in asking. I personally am glad that we remain one Union, as opposed to seperate nations. I am also glad that the South didn't win. Sure I would like the states to have a little more power, but the plan overall has worked pretty well so far.

but greater 2nd ammendment rights? We have plenty of rights when it comes to guns. Name one thing you haven't been able to accomplish because of our "restricted" gun rights.

[LIBERTARIAN1]

I will keep my political opion to myself being that this is such a touchy area, but i am curious how such drama will effect the Dow. Can we expect it to drop below 9?

I have only been trading for a couple months now and am wondering what the market was doing during the Gulf invasion? If this escalates, are we in for uncle willies wild ride?

Just wondering what the take is on this from the seasoned investors in here.

[madcowdisease]

I will keep my political opion to myself being that this is such a touchy area, but i am curious how such drama will effect the Dow. Can we expect it to drop below 9?

I have only been trading for a couple months now and am wondering what the market was doing during the Gulf invasion? If this escalates, are we in for uncle willies wild ride?

Just wondering what the take is on this from the seasoned investors in here.

My understanding is that when America went in to Iraq during Desert Storm the market tanked. Gulp.

The positive side - when US forces won, the market rallied big.