The Patient

[Jelly]

Uncle Sal Aramid (USA) was a healthy guy once upon a time. Now, as an Uncle, he's struggling, taking up residence in the outpatient ward, pending further tests.

On the outside, he was a bully and many of his targets are also in clinic for results of the confrontations. Sal is a christian, so he never thought his actions needed to be justified.

But they were pretty smart. Thru-out time they have gained power by stealing his businesses and made it all right by returning drugs of every kind.

A couple of these quasi-foes are very big fellows. They have lots of guns and friends.

They're not happy that they were infected with the virus Uncle pasted on.


Doctor Real informed our proud hero that his white blood cells are all busy fighting disease, most of which his only in his mind. His red cells are suffering from lack of oxygen and a lot of them are cut off from the lungs to grow and reproduce.

He is so fat and fetid from overindulgence, his organs are failing like a house of cards, one after another. His pusher/pimp is so powerful, he gets his drugs as often and as strong as he wants into his IV. These steroids are astronomically expensive, but he's running a tab with the hospital. Not to worry.

It is kind of funny to watch the other roomies put chocolate milk duds in his food though.

[aiki14]

Aesop would indeed be proud. I'll bet there is a moral to the story.

[Jelly]

Aesop would indeed be proud. I'll bet there is a moral to the story.

"I'll bet there is a moral hazzard? to the story."

hehehe.........I forgot to mention alt and prime class viruses that haven't finished their incubation periods.

[Jelly]

The operation was a success. Unky got a new liver and kidneys. However, the disease is still in his blood stream.

................. and it's multiplying as is it's mission.

Plus, his relatives aren't paying the bills, so he gets unfun food.

[Horsefish]

The operation was a success. Unky got a new liver and kidneys. However, the disease is still in his blood stream.

................. and it's multiplying as is it's mission.

Plus, his relatives aren't paying the bills, so he gets unfun food.

I heard that there is a new antivirus medication on it's way. And probably a new doctor to help administer it.

[Jelly]

I heard that there is a new antivirus medication on it's way. And probably a new doctor to help administer it.

Too bad it's medicine for the wrong disease and even if it was correct, it would be have been rushed to market.

[freakscene]

but why was the patient sick?

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/david_reinhard/index.ssf/2008/09/the_other_david.html

The current Democrat narrative regarding the financial crisis is that it
was caused by "deregulation" under Reagan and the two Bushes. If there
is a god of Democrat financial acumen and brilliance, it is Robert
Rubin, a Citigroup bigwig and Clinton's exalted Secretary of the
Treasury. He disagrees. I do too, and here is why:

(1) The "deregulation" in the financial sector that occurred during
the Reagan administration was in the savings and loan industry. Yes,
that deregulation was partly responsible for the S&L collapse, but it
had nothing at all to do with the present situation.

(2) The next bit of "deregulation" in the financial sector was the
repeal of the Depression-era Glass Steagall Act that had barred banks
from becoming involved in other financial business. Glass Steagall was
repealed, but under Clinton, not Reagan or the Bushes, and it has
helped, not hindered, in the current situation. Banks were not the
principle problem makers of the current crisis, but even if they had
been, it would not have been because of the repeal of Glass-Steagall,
because home lending is part of their core business, not prohibited by
the old law. And, who bought Bear Stearns? J.P Morgan, a bank. Who is
buying Lehman Brothers? Barclay's, a bank. Who is buying Merrill Lynch?
Bank of America. These transactions would have been prohibited under
Glass Steagall, and out current mess would be far worse than it already
is. Phil Gramm is the current mythic target of the Left for this bit of
"deregulation" that is said to have been a cause of the problem. It
wasn't. See here.

(3) It is true that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which are at the
very core of the current crisis, had key restraints on their activities
removed. And it is true that this "deregulation" allowed these former
bastions of financial solidity to become the basket cases they now are.
It is also true that some Republicans in Congress favored these
deregulations. But it is not true that the Bush administration was
behind this.

In fact, the Bush administration tried 17 separate times to
introduce greater controls, greater transparency and greater
accountability at Fannie and Freddie but were blocked every time. The
undoing of Fannie and Freddie began in earnest under the Clinton
administration. James Johnson, Mondale's 1988 campaign manager, a
congressional staffer and lobbyist with no training or experience on
business, went to work after the failed Mondale campaign at...Lehman
Brothers. In 1991, he became CEO of Fannie Mae. Fannie has always had a lot of political ties in Washington and used those ties to create vast private profits with federal government guarantees of losses (the result of which the nation is now seeing all too clearly.)

But was it Republicans who created this situation? Some did, yes, a small core in both House and Senate. But mainly, it was Democrats. Johnson was appointed to Barack Obama's VP selection committee (coincidentally, Obama is second on the list of all-time high recipients of Fannie Mae political contributions, despite being in the Senate for only three years. Johnson resigned about a week later when publicity over his role in wrecking Fannie Mae and maintaining sleazy relations with Countrywide, a major culprit in making the giant mounds of "liar loans" the nation is now saddled with. Not the Johnson Obama once knew, no doubt.

Johnson was replaced by Franklin Raines, another Obama economic
advisor according to the Washington Post, who is now under indictment
for accounting fraud. Raines is a Democrat. Jamie Gorelick, the
notorious Deputy Attorney General under Clinton who was responsible for
the "firewall" that prevented CIA from informing law enforcement
agencies of the 9/11 terrorists, went to Fannie for awhile and walked
away with $75 million! Not bad for someone with no business background.
Number one on Fannie's all-time contributions list? Chris Dodd, Democrat
head of the Senate Banking Committee, recipient of yet another
sweetheart loan from Countrywide, and, along with Barney Frank, Democrat
Chair of House Ways and Means, and Chuck Shumer, Democrat Senator from New York, resolute blockers of every single attempt to rein Fannie and Freddie in, make them more transparent to their taxpayer patrons, reduce their ability to make extremely high-risk investments, and so on.

These are the identical people now in full-throated roar claiming GOP
deregulation, sweetheart deals for Wall Street buddies (who are in fact
overwhelming Democrat themselves) and demanding "accountability."
Picture Claude Raines in "Casablanca" being shocked, shocked that
gambling was going on at Rick's. These guys are the very definition of
brazen hypocrisy. There were plenty of Republicans involved too, but the
Dems drove the boat on this one, and at the very least are in it up to
their eyeballs. So the "GOP deregulation" narrative is nonsense.

[freakscene]

http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/09/18/ny-times-sept-2003-bush-proposed-tightening-oversight-of-fannie-mae-and-freddie-mac-the-democrats-of-congress-blocked-it/

New Agency Proposed to Oversee Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae

By STEPHEN LABATON

The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.

Under the plan, disclosed at a Congressional hearing today, a new agency would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that are the two largest players in the mortgage lending industry.

The new agency would have the authority, which now rests with Congress, to set one of the two capital-reserve requirements for the companies. It would exercise authority over any new lines of business. And it would determine whether the two are adequately managing the risks of their ballooning portfolios.

The plan is an acknowledgment by the administration that oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — which together have issued more than $1.5 trillion in outstanding debt — is broken. A report by outside investigators in July concluded that Freddie Mac manipulated its accounting to mislead investors, and critics have said Fannie Mae does not adequately hedge against rising interest rates.

… Among the groups denouncing the proposal today were the National Association of Home Builders and Congressional Democrats who fear that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing.

”These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ”The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”

Representative Melvin L. Watt, Democrat of North Carolina, agreed.

”I don’t see much other than a shell game going on here, moving something from one agency to another and in the process weakening the bargaining power of poorer families and their ability to get affordable housing,” Mr. Watt said.



Barney Frank running on the cable news programs last night suggesting "more oversight"was needed, is the height of hypocrisy

he, Schumer, and Dodd had opportunities, but blocked them

[Horsefish]

The patient's recorded history has been invaded by a new virus just when the new drug is about to be introduced.

[freakscene]

the diagnosis needs to be re-examined

the symptoms might be addressed, but the drug being discussed might not do anything for future illness

[freakscene]

check out all the marxists in this list with their demands on how the patient should be fixed

there is not a more marxist group in America than ACORN

Major Progressive and Labor Leaders Demand Conditions For Drastic Financial Bailout

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/major-progressive-labor-leaders-demand/story.aspx?guid=%7B54578A04-BB20-40A9-8A35-343E6133505E%7D&dist=hppr

Lindsay Graham just said the bill being discussed today had close to 20% of the money going to ACORN

no wonder the Americans on the hill will not vote for it

defeat it at all costs

[ZaNoob]

What Uncle needs to do is declare a new currency. The old currency will now be worthless as toilet paper. Wouldn't that be something? Oh right, we don't have $1 billion dollar bills yet.

[Jelly]

Hey freak,

Why are you fu*king up my little parable thread with miles of real life jargon? The point is to make things understandable in a simple and intimate way. You exposing your genitals is not exactly what most of us had in mind. Sears is having a sale in case you need to watch your spending. They have all cotton T's for $8. The water-solubles have just about had it.

[freakscene]

Hey freak,

Why are you fu*king up my little parable thread with miles of real life jargon? The point is to make things understandable in a simple and intimate way. You exposing your genitals is not exactly what most of us had in mind. Sears is having a sale in case you need to watch your spending. They have all cotton T's for $8. The water-solubles have just about had it.

i sympathize with how you must feel; the need for simplicity to function.

a few posts with actual data may be difficult for you to digest but please consider that many people may have a better ability to grasp it than you.

:)

as for what "most of you had in mind", i had no idea you spoke for the majority of registered posters on the board. please accept my humble apology.

other than frequently trying to portray yourself as some sort of Playboy on an anonymous internet forum dominated by male posters, which is nothing short of creepy and weird, i really didnt know you were elected to a higher office who determined posting "jargon" in other peoples thread was OK for himself, but it wasnt OK for others.

in the future may i recommend skipping posts with actual data so you do not become confused, which may contribute to that psychosis of yours.

:top:

cheers, and good luck !

:)

[Jelly]

i sympathize with how you must feel; the need for simplicity to function.

a few posts with actual data may be difficult for you to digest but please consider that many people may have a better ability to grasp it than you.

:)

I think developing a simple way of viewing a problem is more creative and illustrative than copy/pasting the ideas of others.

I mean, even 5 year olds can Goggle.

.........but that's just me.

[freakscene]

fair enough

the diagnosis needs to be re-examined

the symptoms might be addressed, but the drug being discussed might not do anything for future illness

[aiki14]

I think developing a simple way of viewing a problem is more creative and illustrative than copy/pasting the ideas of others.

I mean, even 5 year olds can Goggle.

.........but that's just me.

Yeah, but copy/pasting gives you plausible deniability to say it wasn't your idea when it goes south, and to deny that you're actually supporting anything. It's his tactic, attack by proxy, or name calling. His other is using the excuse of the Liberal media when anything goes against his position, and backing his positions with media biased in his direction. He's an ideologue, inflexible, and hopelessly biased. I think this type of thinking is based on cowardice and feelings of self doubt, evidenced by his attempts to attack any thinking that doesn't gel with his, and yet only able to defend his position with the statements of others. That allows wiggle room when he is pressed.

[freakscene]

that would be true.................if it were true

based on a history of reading yor posts, i can quote your entire argument on all things currently political in 4 words (including a contraction for simplicity)

He's an ideologue, inflexible, and hopelessly biased.

"It's all Bush's fault"

talk about hypocrisy

and its quite obvious to any casual reader that i "support nothing" and "need wiggle room"