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sportsmadness80
03-04-2006, 12:58 AM
The only thing I have to say about Google is they should split the stock and allow more investors. The stock is way too high. More stockholders at a reasonable $20 or $30 range would be better. For a beginner this stock is unreachable. I use mostly Yahoo, but I have alot of friends that use Google. Personally, I dont see all the hype for that search engine. I would like to see more talk about the start-up stocks $10 and below that have potential. Jim talked about the resurgence of JDSU and I like that kind of talk. Some of the most killer stocks started at pennies then became huge.

loslobos71
03-04-2006, 09:06 AM
The only thing I have to say about Google is they should split the stock and allow more investors. The stock is way too high. More stockholders at a reasonable $20 or $30 range would be better. For a beginner this stock is unreachable. I use mostly Yahoo, but I have alot of friends that use Google. Personally, I dont see all the hype for that search engine. I would like to see more talk about the start-up stocks $10 and below that have potential. Jim talked about the resurgence of JDSU and I like that kind of talk. Some of the most killer stocks started at pennies then became huge.

You have to remember that owning 3 shares of a $300 stock is the exact same as owning 30 shares of a $30 dollar stock. Look at it this way: if the $300 company announces good news, it goes up 10%, so you make 3 x $30= $90. If the $30/shares company announces the same exact news, it too will go up 10%, which is 30 x $3= $90. See, your profit is the same. And remember that JDSU is not a "small" stock just because it is a under $4 a share. It has a market cap of $6.22 billion dollars. In fact that is in mid-large cap territory. If JDSU did a reverse split and the share price was $30, it would be the exact same size, the same fundamentals, and the same company.

Good luck

mhertz
03-04-2006, 11:20 AM
that is true, nonetheless, there is merit in stock splits (and reverse stock splits). it's a psychological thing -- investors are more willing to have 10 of something than 1 of something even if the aggregate cost is the same.

optimus25
03-04-2006, 03:03 PM
all true. but lets not forget Buffet's Berkshire Hathaway, which has never split.

Correction on the stocks that started from pennies. On a split adjusted basis the stocks started as pennies. When was the last time you saw an IPO at less than $5?

sportsmadness80
03-05-2006, 02:30 AM
Thanks for the feedback and keep it coming. All the comments entered so far interesting and I like that. Makes you think about other angles and I appreciate that.

zyzzyva57
03-05-2006, 07:22 AM
One of those things I knew but did not realize I knew :) Cramer uses the analogy of breaking a pencil in half, to wit, you do NOT really have 2 pencils--You make this even clearer...But it does affect the eps, doesn't it, then the p/e metrics? Can you clarify this aspect for this Newbie how Wall Street would see it?

loslobos71
03-05-2006, 10:21 AM
One of those things I knew but did not realize I knew :) Cramer uses the analogy of breaking a pencil in half, to wit, you do NOT really have 2 pencils--You make this even clearer...But it does affect the eps, doesn't it, then the p/e metrics? Can you clarify this aspect for this Newbie how Wall Street would see it?

happy to help. No it does not affect p/e. If its the $300 stock earnings $10 a share, it has a p/e of 30. If the stock does a 10:1 split, its now a $30 stock with $1 a share in earnings, which gives it a p/e of 30.
As someone else said it has a phycological impact on investors and may help it that way over time. WIth the case of Google I think that people (the media) would stop talking about it if it was a thirty dollar stock, it would be "the same" as Yahoo, Broadcom, Marvel, etc. and it would be bad for the stock. Usually I dont care about the dollar amount of a stock, I just cared about p/e, etc. but it always cracked me up to see a $160 supermarket! (WFMI)

Good Luck

zyzzyva57
03-05-2006, 10:46 AM
Obviously the eps and p/e would remain the same, but boy, it does take some thinking to grasp this. It is so not obvious. Here's another question: a stock can only be split AFTER the market sets an IPO price then? After this, the stock can be sliced and diced by the financial people of a company if they so decide? As in the case of Google, there would be a jab up in price in a stock split, but ultimately, the stock price would be trading the same as before the split?

William Rennick
03-05-2006, 11:36 AM
The only thing I have to say about Google is they should split the stock and allow more investors. The stock is way too high. More stockholders at a reasonable $20 or $30 range would be better. For a beginner this stock is unreachable. I use mostly Yahoo, but I have alot of friends that use Google. Personally, I dont see all the hype for that search engine. I would like to see more talk about the start-up stocks $10 and below that have potential. Jim talked about the resurgence of JDSU and I like that kind of talk. Some of the most killer stocks started at pennies then became huge.

That would be brilliant, then there would be twice as much crap.
...Reniick

madcowdisease
03-06-2006, 03:41 PM
all true. but lets not forget Buffet's Berkshire Hathaway, which has never split.

Correction on the stocks that started from pennies. On a split adjusted basis the stocks started as pennies. When was the last time you saw an IPO at less than $5?

LOL, who's got 80+K to dump on one stock. Could explain the low volume ya think?

sportsmadness80
03-06-2006, 11:18 PM
[QUOTE=zyzzyva57]One of those things I knew but did not realize I knew :) Cramer uses the analogy of breaking a pencil in half, to wit, you do NOT really have 2 pencils--You make this even clearer...But it does affect the eps, doesn't it, then the p/e metrics? Can you clarify this aspect for this Newbie how Wall Street would see it?[/QUOTE

:eek: Ok so I was not born into the Wallstreet jargon but cant a person learn without being called a newbie. I mean what the heck I dont pretend to know everything but I made a few moves and mad at least $800 in two days. Not anything to quit over but it was money I didnt have before. At least some of the posters made gave me a better perspective on the value of a stock versus just dwelling on the cost.