User reputation enabled

[Thierry Martin]

I have added user reputation controls to the profiles. You can vote positive or negative on posts and the users now have symbols (I'll try to find better ones, but these will do for now) that indicate their relative popularity on the forum. This is probably a good idea with a forum like this because it enables new users to somewhat judge the reliability of the posters. I'll update everyone on the way this moves forward, because we will want to tweak it till it reflects things accurately. Let me know what you think.

When you really don't like someone now, you can vote down their reputation and help warn others how they stand in our community.

Here is how the vB reputation 'dots' work:

One green dot is given for every started 100 reputation points.

From 500 points on, one bright green dot is given for every started 200 reputation points.

One red dot is given for every started 100 negative reputation points.

From 500 negative points on, one bright red dot is given for every started 200 negative reputation points

If a user has 0 reputation points, a gray dot is displayed.

If a user has chosen to turn off reputation in his Control Panel (under options) a black dot is displayed.

[TonyM]

This should be fun, equivalent to the cliques in high school.

Let me take a wild guess at the initial response; pumpers knock down the 'regular' stock forum regulars and they return the favor. However, anyone that gains a good reputation in spite of this is probably a very laid back seasoned sage that hasn't made any enemies. Well, Grunt and myself are in the running for worse rep.2361

I'm not knocking your latest tweak to the forum Thierry, after the initial obligatory round of entries it should settle down into something that might be useful. Will users be able to see who voted for/against them? Don't forget to be on the lookout for multiple identities by some people.

[Thierry Martin]

Tony - it's a very sophisticated system, and I can't reveal all of it here because I don't want anyone gaming it.

The more posts you have, the longer you have been a registered user, the more positive votes for your posts, the more voting power you have. In other words, the more reputation points you have, the more your votes count because you are giving more points to the person you are voting for than would a poster with fewer reputation points of their own.

New users, pumpers, etc. would not be able to alter the results in a significant way.

Of course IP addresses are tracked. You can only vote once for any given post. There is a limit to the amount of votes in one 24 hour period based on your voting power.

Let's try it out for a while and see if the results match what we intuitively know about the relative contributions of the posters here.

It is a democratic system, more or less, and just like real elections, there will be some fooling around and corruption, but I doubt the effort required to cheat would be worth it for anyone but a true madman.

I also have access to an infraction system, but I am worried that we will lose all of our most colorful characters here if people can vote to have them censored. I prefer a system that rates the users based on their usefulness.

You can see who voted on your posts in your control panel.

All negative votes require a comment, and I can review those to see if the negative votes are logical or warranted, if not, I can dismiss them.

[TonyM]

I see, so how'd you get so high up already?;)

[Thierry Martin]

I see, so how'd you get so high up already?;)

I just fixed that - the system seems to default to 2000 points for the administrator.

[Luc1Grunt]

This should be fun, equivalent to the cliques in high school.

Let me take a wild guess at the initial response; pumpers knock down the 'regular' stock forum regulars and they return the favor. However, anyone that gains a good reputation in spite of this is probably a very laid back seasoned sage that hasn't made any enemies. Well, Grunt and myself are in the running for worse rep.2361

I'm not knocking your latest tweak to the forum Thierry, after the initial obligatory round of entries it should settle down into something that might be useful. Will users be able to see who voted for/against them? Don't forget to be on the lookout for multiple identities by some people.

Again Tony! Scotch through the nose and on the keyboard. You're gonna owe me a bottle of Dalmore one of these days, but till then....Merry Christmas!!

PS....I'm gonna have to "un-ignore" a few posters and give them "two thumbs up"..:mrgreen:

[reef]

Again Tony! Scotch through the nose and on the keyboard. You're gonna owe me a bottle of Dalmore one of these days, but till then....Merry Christmas!!

PS....I'm gonna have to "un-ignore" a few posters and give them "two thumbs up"..:mrgreen:

I just cleared out my ignore list, lol! :lol:

[computeraces]

Just cleared mine too.

[TonyM]

Again Tony! Scotch through the nose and on the keyboard. You're gonna owe me a bottle of Dalmore one of these days, but till then....Merry Christmas!!

PS....I'm gonna have to "un-ignore" a few posters and give them "two thumbs up"..:mrgreen:

Hehe, I'm just looking out for your liver, you'll thank me one day. I'll need to see some photographic evidence along with your bill for the Dalmore, not that I doubt you, I just want my money's worth:lol:

I found that I'm too inquisitive to have people on ignore, can't learn anything by sticking my fingers in my ears, even if it is only to learn how ignorant a person is, info is info.:wink:

Well, I'm going to slum it with my Chivas, Cheers and happy holidays to you and your family.

[Luc1Grunt]

Hehe, I'm just looking out for your liver, you'll thank me one day. I'll need to see some photographic evidence along with your bill for the Dalmore, not that I doubt you, I just want my money's worth:lol:

I found that I'm too inquisitive to have people on ignore, can't learn anything by sticking my fingers in my ears, even if it is only to learn how ignorant a person is, info is info.:wink:

Well, I'm going to slum it with my Chivas, Cheers and happy holidays to you and your family.

Too late in the game to save this liver!!

This is very good....I usually drink the 21 or occasionally the 12

2373

[aiki14]

Too late in the game to save this liver!!

This is very good....I usually drink the 21 or occasionally the 12

2373

I like the Dalmore a lot as well. I am sitting with a Glenmorangie 18 which I found in the duty free in Sydney on the way here. I would recommend The Balvenie 21 Portwood as well.

[Luc1Grunt]

I like the Dalmore a lot as well. I am sitting with a Glenmorangie 18 which I found in the duty free in Sydney on the way here. I would recommend The Balvenie 21 Portwood as well.

Glenmorangie 18. You have good taste. Never had the latter...have to put it on my list.


May have to give you a few more reputation points for Scotch recommendations! :mrgreen:

[aiki14]

Glenmorangie 18. You have good taste. Never had the latter...have to put it on my list.


May have to give you a few more reputation points for Scotch recommendations! :mrgreen:

Grunt, if you enjoy a good scotch, check out the Scotch Malt Whisky Society. It's representatives go around Scotland and find the best whisky out there, buy the whole hogshead, and bottle it at cask strength in the society's own bottles. Then make it available only to members. The president's selection for best whisky of the year a couple years ago was a 36 yr old MacCallum, a Speyside whisky, which is the best I have ever had. Every month they send out a newsletter/bottling list from which you can choose, and they have a rating and description for each whisky. Here's the link
http://www.smwsa.com/

[Luc1Grunt]

Grunt, if you enjoy a good scotch, check out the Scotch Malt Whisky Society. It's representatives go around Scotland and find the best whisky out there, buy the whole hogshead, and bottle it at cask strength in the society's own bottles. Then make it available only to members. The president's selection for best whisky of the year a couple years ago was a 36 yr old MacCallum, a Speyside whisky, which is the best I have ever had. Every month they send out a newsletter/bottling list from which you can choose, and they have a rating and description for each whisky. Here's the link
http://www.smwsa.com/

I got turned on to this a couple years back while enjoying a fine single at the Dell in the Dundee section of Omaha. Don't know why I lost track of it. Maybe because of the several samples over the course of the next 5 hours, ha!!

I'll check it out again.....

Exchange rate sucks, but wifey is putting on the pressure for an Edinburgh trip.

[TonyM]

I just fixed that - the system seems to default to 2000 points for the administrator.

After pondering that, I don't see why you shouldn't start there, even though I don't always agree with you, I do give you props for never losing your temper and composure (that I can recall anyway) when it would be so easy to do so. Yep, you're a pretty mellow dude, and that's frustrating at times;)

[englishman26]

Who the heck is Bill Daughtridge and how'd he get a higher rep score than me??

Ever try Bowmore? - amazing smokey flavor. Other whiskey's mentioned all great though!

[TonyM]

Who the heck is Bill Daughtridge and how'd he get a higher rep score than me??

Ever try Bowmore? - amazing smokey flavor. Other whiskey's mentioned all great though!

Ya think some people are pm'ing their way to a status symbol? Nah, nobody is so vain as to solicit rep points, are they?:lol:

Btw & fwiw, I take back my former statement about Thierry being even-tempered, he seems to have lost a little in that department.

[englishman26]

wow - you have the 2nd worst rep on the site Tony, just ahead of gzapper! Congrats! Hey what do they say - "better to be hated than ignored" eh?!

[TonyM]

I have been working very hard to get worse rep but it is much harder than one would think and I'm almost peeved that gzap is here to steal my thunder, however I was the first to have a completely neutral rating...for a day or so anyway.:D

[TonyM]

User reputation enabled 01-09-2008 03:56 PM wants negative votes

Thank you kind sir or madam.

[TonyM]

User reputation enabled 01-09-2008 04:46 PM wants negative votes

Keep 'em coming, I'm only at -55 currently, what's your current score gzap? I'm closing in on you, I can feel it.

[englishman26]

I gave a you a positive earlier today! Sorry!

My little square has gone black! What's up with that!?

[Thierry Martin]

I gave a you a positive earlier today! Sorry!

My little square has gone black! What's up with that!?

The black square appears when you disable showing your reputation in the control panel. You can always see how many points you have though and you can still turn it back on when you want.

[englishman26]

So I disabled it?? I really don't remember doing that. I on't even know how to do that! Weird.

[aiki14]

I disabled mine. I find the whole concept of anonymously rating someone gives me an uneasy feeling, similar to gossiping. I don't like it, won't use it, and would prefer if it was gone.

[Jelly]

I disabled mine. I find the whole concept of anonymously rating someone gives me an uneasy feeling, similar to gossiping. I don't like it, won't use it, and would prefer if it was gone.

But it's just like an Ebay rating and a wonderful way to entice those who would seek to speak colorfully and with zooberance to STFU and be a quiet little mouse in sheeps clothing.

In this way, we would be doing our little part to promote peace and harmony in the universe.....Ommmmmm

Kind of a grass roots movement. Then we could expand and go down to the church and have a thanksgiving meal that couldn't be beat and return the favor by taking out a year's worth of garbage and loading it into the Vee Double U microbus and taking it ....................

Alice and the White Rabbit would be smiling.

[englishman26]

After giving or taking rep to/from someone, how many others do I have to vote on before I can vote on that same person again? Currently I get a message to "spread it around" a lot!

[netwrangler]

After giving or taking rep to/from someone, how many others do I have to vote on before I can vote on that same person again? Currently I get a message to "spread it around" a lot!Not to answer for TM, but I bet the answer to your question might promote gaming the system.

Just as a matter of curiosity, I wonder if Chubby Kabob distributed any rep points to historical posters in his excursions digging up some really inane threads from the past. Well, no matter, he's gone a good riddance, IMHO.

I have considered going back into the archives and rating past posts. Certainly many past posts of the Chart Guru are worthy of note. But then, TCG is posting now, so I can give him rep based on, "What have you done for me lately?"

:D

[reef]

What I find absolutley hilarious is that if you go to the member list and click on reputation, it has me in first. Shocking to me because I dont add value to the site like most others - Aiki, Cman, Netwrangler, Svenwolf and many others. I'm still learning IMO and my stock advice would be to pay attention to what others like those above have to say. At least that is what I tell people when I let them know about this site. :biggrin:

[netwrangler]

What I find absolutley hilarious is that if you go to the member list and click on reputation, it has me in first. Shocking to me because I dont add value to the site like most others - Aiki, Cman, Netwrangler, Svenwolf and many others. I'm still learning IMO and my stock advice would be to pay attention to what others like those above have to say. At least that is what I tell people when I let them know about this site. :biggrin:
Hey Reef,

The way I figure it, you're a good person to have on a camping trip. You do your part and you don't piss people off. I figure I'm up there behind you for much the same reasons. Why Aiki, Cman, Microhedge, Sven, and Englishman aren't ahead of us is no more mysterious than how BSGCORP is rated as high as he is.

I'm reminded of the guy who played in a weekly poker game that was fixed. He lost regularly. His friends asked him why he continued to play. His response was, "I know the game is crooked, but it's the only game in town." That's kinda where we are.

BTW Reef, I think you deserve a good rep on this forum. I think I do too. It's just weird to think that you and I are leading the pack.

[Thierry Martin]

After giving or taking rep to/from someone, how many others do I have to vote on before I can vote on that same person again? Currently I get a message to "spread it around" a lot!

You are limited to 20 votes in a day, and you have to hit 10 people before you hit the same person twice.

[Thierry Martin]

Just as a matter of curiosity, I wonder if Chubby Kabob distributed any rep points to historical posters in his excursions digging up some really inane threads from the past. Well, no matter, he's gone a good riddance, IMHO.

:D

Chubby (Luc1Grunt's alias) actually never had enough reputation points of his own to distribute any. You have to have a minimum number of posts and a minimum amount of reputation yourself before your votes actually count. The more reputation you have yourself, the more your votes add reputation to others.

[netwrangler]

You are limited to 20 votes in a day, and you have to hit 10 people before you hit the same person twice.Well, that may be correct, but it seems like there are other limits.

I figure the best approach is not to worry about the rules. If a post works, try adding to the rep. If a post offends, send a negative message.

Most posts won't rate a response from most people. Seems like that approach ought to even out over time - assuming that folks really are independent.

Story from the past:
In my High School, we had an organization called the "Mock Senate". These folks pretended to be US Senators and debated the political issues of the day.

This was not a popular group. Indeed, the students in this organization tended to be somewhat non-athletic. "Flits" was the politically incorrect term of the time. Still, they enjoyed the Mock Senate and participated with enthusiasm.

One year, the members of the football team decided to join the Mock Senate. When the entire team was present, they comprised a voting majority. They voted the Mock Senate out of existence.

The "flits" were devastated. The school Administration annulled the vote. The football coach "counseled" his team members. The Mock Senate was restored. This was an early lesson for me about the dangers of "majority rule" and of polarized activism.

[For those of you who might be wondering: No, I was not a member of the Mock Senate or the football team. I ran track, played tennis, wrestled, and played Bari Sax in various musical groups.]

[reef]

Chubby (Luc1Grunt's alias) actually never had enough reputation points of his own to distribute any. You have to have a minimum number of posts and a minimum amount of reputation yourself before your votes actually count. The more reputation you have yourself, the more your votes add reputation to others.


Ah! Is that why there are grey boxes next to a couple of mine? Because the person didnt have enuff rep?


Hey Reef,

The way I figure it, you're a good person to have on a camping trip.


Well, I do like camping! :smokin:

[Thierry Martin]

Ah! Is that why there are grey boxes next to a couple of mine? Because the person didnt have enuff rep?

Well, I do like camping! :smokin:

Black is reputation display disabled, grey is zero points, or no reputation yet.

[Jelly]

Well, I do like camping! :smokin:

Brokeback camping? :eek2:

:D

[reef]

Brokeback camping? :eek2:

:D

Oh yeah baby! LOL! NOT!

Actually you might be familiar with a couple places I goto since your in Central Cali - Yosemite, Pinnacles, Big Sur, Mt Madonna, Big Basin. :proud:

[Albert0373]

Chubby (Luc1Grunt's alias) ...

I really really am skeptical of this...

I've went thru most of his posts and none of them pertain to Luc's style of talking:

Damn. Sorry to have asked. It looked like a decent play. I'm trying to catch up here a bit and maybe fit in but I guess I don't know the rules. I sense a lot of hostility from some folks. Who do I need to screen my posts through? People being called dummies and retards and POSs.

I'm kinda new at this. If you are "using your own insight" for the exit, what insight did you use in buying it? A chart pattern, technical analysis, fundamental approach? Or was it just a pick from a service?

If you are a knowledgeable trader, why would you be using a "robot"?

And where did the realized profit come from?

How will you use tradeking screen shots after the fact of the purchase? Tradestation is easy to blank out data. Very easy. I'm a little confused by all of this.

Are you not concerned with selling a stock with 50,000 share volume?

I'm new at pennies so I need some help understanding these things.

This is another stock that is running with no end in sight. It will hit resistance at 3 and then the sky is the limit. I think it is an easy $4 in the next 3 weeks.

Anyone get in on this today? I bought near the close. I'm down a little bit for now, but this is going above today's high and on to 7.75 very fast. Volume went from 300,000 shares a day to 3.65 million today. It's gonna be a screamer.



Did you catch them on the same IPs? Must be a fluke..

[netwrangler]

I really really am skeptical of this...

I've went thru most of his posts and none of them pertain to Luc's style of talking:

Did you catch them on the same IPs? Must be a fluke..As i understand Grunt's version of this, Chubby was a house sitter who had access to Grunt's computer.

I agree, Albert, that the styles are very different. Chubby really ticked me off, while Grunt never did that. [OK, I never took Grunt on head-to-head, but, then, I never had reason to do that.]

I figure the true test is not whether their postings were from the same IP address, but whether their postings overlapped from that IP address. That's something that only Thierry can tell us.

As far as detecting dopplegangers goes, I figure that kthomllc and wallstreetsedge are the same posters. Maybe, now that I've said this, they will diverge. Still, it seemed like a good match to me. So, Thierry, what's the IP address story on those two?

Of course, if I were to create a doppleganger for me, I'd make sure that the DG never posted from my primary computer.

'hehe' (as Grunt would say)

[Luc1Grunt]

This post will likely be deleted as have all the posts defending against garbage (nice tactic).

Robert (Khabob) had his fun. I take no responsibility for him. He is a trading "machine" and a good friend. He has taught me a great amount, but his attitude of this site is far worse than "my opinion" may appear at times.

This is a forum right? I guess sensitivity is in the eye of the beholder or the "defender" of attacks?

I do remember getting chastised for calling Prodigy a piece of shot. "My daughter reads this site" was the quote. Now we have open jpg.s on the off topic section with nudity? Hey I like it, but don't play that hypocritical crap when the chips are down.

Too funny man, too funny.

[Albert0373]

"My daughter reads this site" was the quote. Now we have open jpg.s on the off topic section with nudity? Hey I like it, but don't play that hypocritical crap when the chips are down.

Too funny man, too funny.

:lol:

[Luc1Grunt]

And by the way...nice detective work on the IP address. He was sitting in this chair and on the same network when he posted. I doubt he has posted from his home....he doesn't, as he puts it, "waste his time".

[Luc1Grunt]

Hi AL! I've got some info for ya in a galaxy far away. AIKI and NET have my info for ya. How's that Master's coming?

[Albert0373]

Hi AL! I've got some info for ya in a galaxy far away. AIKI and NET have my info for ya. How's that Master's coming?

Hello to you also! :) Still chugging along, I've been inactive for a bit but back now. I still got your email on hand as well as others; copied all my PMs down when my account was moderated. Just glad to be back and sharing some info with others.

[Luc1Grunt]

Hey, I'm moderated too!! 8)

Can't touch my own profile or ANY of the penny forums!!

One scotch too many!

[Thierry Martin]

As i understand Grunt's version of this, Chubby was a house sitter who had access to Grunt's computer.

I agree, Albert, that the styles are very different. Chubby really ticked me off, while Grunt never did that. [OK, I never took Grunt on head-to-head, but, then, I never had reason to do that.]

I figure the true test is not whether their postings were from the same IP address, but whether their postings overlapped from that IP address. That's something that only Thierry can tell us.

As far as detecting dopplegangers goes, I figure that kthomllc and wallstreetsedge are the same posters. Maybe, now that I've said this, they will diverge. Still, it seemed like a good match to me. So, Thierry, what's the IP address story on those two?

Of course, if I were to create a doppleganger for me, I'd make sure that the DG never posted from my primary computer.

'hehe' (as Grunt would say)

kthomllc asked that his username be changed to wallstreetedge. Grunt and Chubby were posting from the same IP at the same time, by Grunt's own admission from the same laptop, having conversations with each other in the same threads.

[Keventerprises]

I have added user reputation controls to the profiles. You can vote positive or negative on posts and the users now have symbols (I'll try to find better ones, but these will do for now) that indicate their relative popularity on the forum. This is probably a good idea with a forum like this because it enables new users to somewhat judge the reliability of the posters. I'll update everyone on the way this moves forward, because we will want to tweak it till it reflects things accurately. Let me know what you think.

When you really don't like someone now, you can vote down their reputation and help warn others how they stand in our community.

Here is how the vB reputation 'dots' work:

One green dot is given for every started 100 reputation points.

From 500 points on, one bright green dot is given for every started 200 reputation points.

One red dot is given for every started 100 negative reputation points.

From 500 negative points on, one bright red dot is given for every started 200 negative reputation points

If a user has 0 reputation points, a gray dot is displayed.

If a user has chosen to turn off reputation in his Control Panel (under options) a black dot is displayed.

So, let me get this straight, Green is good, red is bad? Do we ever get a caution flag?

[Thierry Martin]

So, let me get this straight, Green is good, red is bad? Do we ever get a caution flag?

No caution flags! But it is twice as hard to get negative points than positive. You would have to be pretty obnoxious to get into the red.

The reputation will mean more over the next few months, because it has to be slow in order to be fair and not be manipulated easily.

[Keventerprises]

No caution flags! But it is twice as hard to get negative points than positive. You would have to be pretty obnoxious to get into the red.

The reputation will mean more over the next few months, because it has to be slow in order to be fair and not be manipulated easily.

If we get 100 points, do we get a free book? :rofl:

[Luc1Grunt]

kthomllc asked that his username be changed to wallstreetedge. Grunt and Chubby were posting from the same IP at the same time, by Grunt's own admission from the same laptop, having conversations with each other in the same threads.

Uhh, I have 6 machines in this house on one network. You implied I have lied? Now that you finally have my side, you switch gears and claim we were conversing with each other as this was some broken forum rule?

And the point of that is? Would you like a transcript? Would you like P&L statements? Would you like to come over for dinner? We also traded, played Call of Duty for about 10 hours over the course of a few days, went fishing, had a jam session with some other friends, took the ladies out, talked about college for the kids, caught up on some funny stories from a bad place, and drank a lot of Scotch and Mackeson's XXX.

Why am I such a threat to you Thierry? Why was TonyM?

Great detective work Monk.

Delete....as you see fit.

[aiki14]

Uhh, I have 6 machines in this house on one network. You implied I have lied? Now that you finally have my side, you switch gears and claim we were conversing with each other as this was some broken forum rule?

And the point of that is? Would you like a transcript? Would you like P&L statements? Would you like to come over for dinner? We also traded, played Call of Duty for about 10 hours over the course of a few days, went fishing, had a jam session with some other friends, took the ladies out, talked about college for the kids, caught up on some funny stories from a bad place, and drank a lot of Scotch and Mackeson's XXX.

Why am I such a threat to you Thierry? Why was TonyM?

Great detective work Monk.

Delete....as you see fit.

Way off topic but Mackeson's triple stout? Awesome, my second favorite after Samuel Smiths Oatmeal stout. I haven't seen it in a while, because Pennsylvania has the worst alcohol sale rules on the planet (well maybe Saudi Arabia).

[Luc1Grunt]

Yeah, but you have Yuengling which I enjoy when in DC.