Doubling Stocks... Let's Decide... Together

[microhedge]

This is my once a day...

May God forgive me for starting this thread.

[AJLightning]

[QUOTE=Luc1Grunt;84707]Harlis, I think I understand a little better now.

Your question on brokers is still to broad.
===
Thank you
Thats an answer I was expectin at first. But as I already find out here in US, you need to pland a money tree yourself , watering and take care of it well and might in some preriod of time it will bloom for you in green :)

I am planting my tree. I'll let you know latter if it bloom:)

Good luck.
By the way -soccker rules . And basketball is our religion in the country I was born :)
Sad thing is- I probably never will understand #1 us sport -baseball. Boring to the bone, fat and old guys play , and spit everywhere in the field... every 2-3 min. Gross. But it is just me. Who born here and grew up- they look at this one as a kind of religion too...

Have a good rest of this sunday !

Harlis



#1 sport in the UNITED STATES is the NFL (National Football League)...and don't you EVER forget that

BOY


to my fellow OTF members...reading through this, laughing my ass off at the same time, I just couldn't let that one go!

I think theres a redneck joke in here somewhere...

Your a redneck if...you subscribe to a "trading robot" newsletter even though.....??? Well, you get it!

This has got to be the most comical thread in the universe!!!:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mr green::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen ::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

[AJLightning]

one more thought...and why are all these "new members" with only 3 posts chiming in? And their paragraph's are all structured the same??!!??

[aiki14]

one more thought...and why are all these "new members" with only 3 posts chiming in? And their paragraph's are all structured the same??!!??

I was noticing the same thing. Seems like a bunch of folks with loud opinions, and thoughts poorly organized, and even more poorly spelled, have descended upon the forum.
I am a believer that if you can't frame a sentence or coherently state an idea, and english is your native language, you might be getting into something you can't handle in the market. This thread, cursed be the infidel who started it ( :wink: ), seems to be a magnet for those who are likely marching in bovine obliviousness into the rotating knives of the market.

[netwrangler]

This is my once a day...

May God forgive me for starting this thread.Hey, don't sweat it, Micro.

At least we have a fair number of the yo-yo's inside the thread corral.
Makes it easier to identify and deal.

[reef]

This has been fun to read, lol.

[stockviper]

Doubling Stocks ?

Look at these 3. Do some homework, read the PR's and then thank me!

ETIM

DPDW

ONMC

That's all for now...Have fun reading, hope you can sleep tonight?

[AJLightning]

2269

[Luc1Grunt]

Doubling Stocks ?

Look at these 3. Do some homework, read the PR's and then thank me!

ETIM

DPDW

ONMC

That's all for now...Have fun reading, hope you can sleep tonight?

Like a baby with no worries. 8)

[Pigeoninator]

doublingstocks - the ultimate money maker

[fulano]

Hello,

For what it's worth, if you get in touch with clickbank, they will return your money for both the newsletter and the program. (Neither "Michael" nor anyone at the company answered my emails, and the only phone number they give on the site is not working)--go directly to clickbank, you're better off IMHO)

[jackbnimble]

I am very concerned about the latest suggestion from "marl". It is "HRAL" a stock that plummeted from $7.00 to /$1.32 when it was discovered that the market maker and possibly others were shorting the stock--not really a confidence builder.

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/071101/20071101005964.html?.v=1

Press Release Source: HearAtLast Holdings, Inc.


HearAtLast Holdings, Inc. to Seek Temporary Restraining Order Against Park Financial Group, Inc.
Thursday November 1, 11:49 am ET


Do you know how the marl system actually works? Why does it have to be downloaded onto my computer. The day after it was downloaded my Norton 360 virus system stopped working. Is that related? Does marl have the ability to be a virus to steal information from my computer? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

[jackbnimble]

Hello,

For what it's worth, if you get in touch with clickbank, they will return your money for both the newsletter and the program. (Neither "Michael" nor anyone at the company answered my emails, and the only phone number they give on the site is not working)--go directly to clickbank, you're better off IMHO)
Does anyone know how marl actually works? Why does it have to be downloaded? The day after I downloaded it, my Norton 360 security failed and I had to reinstall it. Is marl disabling my security and stealing data from my computer?

[fulano]

Does anyone know how marl actually works? Why does it have to be downloaded? The day after I downloaded it, my Norton 360 security failed and I had to reinstall it. Is marl disabling my security and stealing data from my computer?

My Norton got screwed up, as well--I have uninstalled this piece of sh*t. By the way, while testing it, the five picks Marl generated all tanked, big time (at least I was trading in a paper account). And it appears to be impossible to reach a live human, nor find their company in any directory I tried.

My best guess is that they load up on whatever stock they're pimping, then send out the newsletter or program their database to "recommend" said stock.

[Luc1Grunt]

My Norton got screwed up, as well--I have uninstalled this piece of sh*t. By the way, while testing it, the five picks Marl generated all tanked, big time (at least I was trading in a paper account). And it appears to be impossible to reach a live human, nor find their company in any directory I tried.

My best guess is that they load up on whatever stock they're pimping, then send out the newsletter or program their database to "recommend" said stock.



Ya think?

[stockviper]

ETIM.

Throw $100.00 at it and wait till next year. If the company does what the CEO just stated in the interview you will have $25,000.00 next year.

Etim is currently at .002. This interview was just released and the CEO of ETIM states a target price of .50 for 2008.

http://www.wallst.net/audio/audio.asp?ticker=ETIM&id=4295

BOOOHYAH!

[Bill Daughtridge]

Hello Anybody, I am absolutely new to the idea of trading qand had hoped to start small so DS looked ideal. I wrote to all of the alleged satisfied customers and to "Michael," and after one week went by, received non-informative replies from the two alleged customers but not from "Michael." BTW, no business is listed in the yellow pages at the address listed in Seattle, WA, and the telephone number with a (44) is obviously in the UK not even in the USA! So what, if the stock picks are good. I spent an hour on the phone yesterday with the leader of a ValuVest user group and he said I should never consider active trading without having $10,000 - $30,000 minimum to risk losing comletely as my start-up capital. Is it possible to start with a few hundred dollars and, trading penny stocks, make money? If DS is bogus, are there any good newsletters or stock picking services out there worth using? Any advice anyone can share will be appreciated as i try to decide to invest my time and money into active trading or just put more money into mutual funds for 2008 and hold for the long-term.

[printboy63]

doublingstocks - the ultimate money maker


That Does NOT Compute!!!!

[wallstreetsedge]

yesterday i saw the ad and decided give it a shot. the couple of bucks isnt going to break the bank and i found a link online to the robot for $97

i do a lot of technical analysis and use several indicators indicators. so i thought getting the robot might be a good way to cut back on time. even though i thought a couple of things were fishy such as their video about how some stock was up over 100% the next day or the supposed videos everyone sent in that were on youtube.

so after running it, i got the stock PNS and i bought 1000 shares at $2.46

i admit i bought this one blindly without looking into anything and thought of the cash as already lost money. i saw the stock run up a few percentage points yesterday and again up almost 8% today which i wouldnt say is amazing but it is a big guessing game.

i also know the robot isnt analyzing anything... today it gave me the same pick as yesterday. another funny thing about it is the PNS stock wasnt even listed in the supposed stocks that it scanned. also when its supposedly analyzing, it runs down a list in alphabetical order but the searching stocks are running in a random order. sometimes it will even give you stocks that arent in the analyzed list or old symbols.

so this is just some program that spits out a random stock that theyre pumping and dumping which is fine i suppose, people have been doing it for ages via emails and newsletters, this isnt anything different.

since there are so many otc, bb, and pk stocks out there i guess this is a good way to get a decent listing of a few of them.

plus im up 12% or $300 so ive got no complaints about what theyre doing, its the same thing that other pump and dumpers have been doing but in a magical robot instead of in a hard copy newsletter, email, or phone call

[CarlJ]

yesterday i saw the ad and decided give it a shot.

i do a lot of technical analysis and use several indicators indicators. so i thought getting the robot might be a good way to cut back on time.

so after running it, i got the stock PNS and i bought 1000

i admit i bought this one blindly without looking into anything







If you were one of the people who paid the FULL PRICE for MARL, you'd have gotten the real money maker picks, BUT!; since you wanted to take the cheap route you get the cheap performing stocks.

pns
Volume: 16,000
Avg Vol (3m): 12,075

[aiki14]

If you were one of the people who paid the FULL PRICE for MARL, you'd have gotten the real money maker picks, BUT!; since you wanted to take the cheap route you get the cheap performing stocks.

pns
Volume: 16,000
Avg Vol (3m): 12,075

If you were one of the people who paid the FULL PRICE you'd be that much more unhappy, as the whole thing is a scam.
For years I have watched the rubes get conned by these carnival barkers of the market whose expertise is in separating the unsuspecting and the greedy from their money.

CarlJ, are you kidding? Anyone who would make that statement is either in league with these thieves or a complete sap. So I guess I am asking, are you a criminal or a fool?

[wallstreetsedge]

well what i was trying to say in my post was that its not doing any real analysis... its spitting out a random stock to you. as everyone else said, its not really doing any real analysis. i also noticed that the analyzing pick is fake because it gives you a pick that it didnt even scan. then the real pick is a pick thats not even in the list PLUS the picks that it gives you arent pk or bb stocks.

its kind of funny because i ran the program again today out of curiousity and it gave me another nasdaq gm stock.

today it spat out... VITA which closed at $3.25 on friday

so out of curiousity and since it made me about 12% on the last trade in 1 day, im going to give it a shot and see what this one gives me in 1 or 2 days as well.

wish me luck! ill put in a limit to buy 1000 shares on monday after i see how it trades before lunch. the good thing is that this stock has fairly decent volume compared to its price... about 250k shares on avg

[aiki14]

Here's a Morningstar 1 pager on VITA
2405

[netwrangler]

Here's a Morningstar 1 pager on VITA
2405I'm a Morningstar subscriber. I can see where you get the 1 pagers. I don't see, off hand, where you get your 4-pagers.

Am I just not seeing a link on the page?...or are the longer reports not available for all stocks?

BTW: Your referencing these reports made me realize that I had a resource available that I wasn't using.
As Arthur Hertzberg, an old sailing mate, used to say, "Vee iss too soon old and too late schmart."
[For the record, Arthur spoke perfect English, but he did great dialect too.]

[aiki14]

I'm a Morningstar subscriber. I can see where you get the 1 pagers. I don't see, off hand, where you get your 4-pagers.

Am I just not seeing a link on the page?...or are the longer reports not available for all stocks?

BTW: Your referencing these reports made me realize that I had a resource available that I wasn't using.
As Arthur Hertzberg, an old sailing mate, used to say, "Vee iss too soon old and too late schmart."
[For the record, Arthur spoke perfect English, but he did great dialect too.]

Net, I get Morningstar through Merrill and Thompson, so i don't know where they appear on the Morningstar platform. The 4 and 7 pagers are not available for every stock every day like the 1 pagers.

[CarlJ]

If you were one of the people who paid the FULL PRICE you'd be that much more unhappy, as the whole thing is a scam.
For years I have watched the rubes get conned by these carnival barkers of the market whose expertise is in separating the unsuspecting and the greedy from their money.

CarlJ, are you kidding? Anyone who would make that statement is either in league with these thieves or a complete sap. So I guess I am asking, are you a criminal or a fool?

:roll: FUXX You. If it wasn't OBVIUS to you it was SARCASM (especially with the winky emotocon) then you are either an idiot, a Fool or Both. So in all sincerity, kiss my ass and go to hell. I really truly and deeply resent your accusations.

[Luc1Grunt]

:roll: FUXX You. If it wasn't OBVIUS to you it was SARCASM (especially with the winky emotocon) then you are either an idiot, a Fool or Both. So in all sincerity, kiss my ass and go to hell. I really truly and deeply resent your accusations.


There was no winky icon you twit. Go back and read your own posts. Ther is no way that can be construed as sarcasm. For calling someone a fool and an idiot....he must have gotten to you as you state you "resent" the accustions.

Owned.

And a "MARL" purchaser to boot. Twit.

;););););)

Edit: Whoooops.....I now see the winky in the subject bar.
Sorry.


;););););)

[Luc1Grunt]

Almost forgot. I am now a supporter of penny stock picker subscriptions.

Sorrry to have thread-jacked.

[aiki14]

:roll: FUXX You. If it wasn't OBVIUS to you it was SARCASM (especially with the winky emotocon) then you are either an idiot, a Fool or Both. So in all sincerity, kiss my ass and go to hell. I really truly and deeply resent your accusations.

Sorry, I missed the winky emoticon since it was in the subject line, I didn't even know it was possible to put it there. You'll also note it doesn't show up when you quote your post. Without it there is no way to see your post as it apparently was intended. My apologies.

[wallstreetsedge]

ok yesterday and today MARL gave a list of new picks...

friday it said buy VITA closed 3.25
sunday it said buy ITI closed 3.95
today it says buy FA closed 2.50

lets test this and see how these do, ill close them out depending on the trading pattern or most likely by the end of the day. no point going long into a holiday unless its flat or down

so far MARL made money on PNS, so its batting 1-0

[Luc1Grunt]

ok yesterday and today MARL gave a list of new picks...

friday it said buy VITA closed 3.25
sunday it said buy ITI closed 3.95
today it says buy FA closed 2.50

lets test this and see how these do, ill close them out depending on the trading pattern or most likely by the end of the day. no point going long into a holiday unless its flat or down

so far MARL made money on PNS, so its batting 1-0

The banner ad at the top of this forum says $300 plus a week on a 1000 base. All these should make big money. That's $3000 a week on a 10k base and 30k a week on a 100 k base. too easy.

[wallstreetsedge]

i agree, i was saying that its spitting out random stocks...

so lets see what this random bot does for the month based off of the intial investment. plus i wouldnt go as far as to say 30% a week. it could be the avg from random buys for a yr. or a month thats why id like to see what the intiial investment does over 1mo. 1 week is too short to judge and anything more than a month is too long to judge this bot on

[Keventerprises]

ok yesterday and today MARL gave a list of new picks...

friday it said buy VITA closed 3.25
sunday it said buy ITI closed 3.95
today it says buy FA closed 2.50

lets test this and see how these do, ill close them out depending on the trading pattern or most likely by the end of the day. no point going long into a holiday unless its flat or down

so far MARL made money on PNS, so its batting 1-0

Thank you so much for doing a definitive test and sharing it with us! Now we'll know whether to get out our Visa or get out some rope. Happy New Year!

-Kevin

[wallstreetsedge]

from what i can see... MARL is killing the mkt now... right now hes up on VITA, ITI, and FA from when i purchased them today. i added more capital today just for the hell of it since he gave me 3 picks over the weekend and also because i only got a partial fill on FA, otherwise i would have left all the capital on FA. i guess its kind of cheating since i said i wouldnt add more capital but i couldnt help it.

500 shrs FA 2.48
500 shrs ITI 3.89
500 shrs VITA 3.25

so far its performing well, lets just see how he holds up at the end of the month. to make it easy, lets not include any trading fees. and to keep it simple, lets use my beginning base amount and added cash as my beginning investment capital so $4510 is my starting position

as of right now MARL is...

up $300 realized profit
up $220 unrealized profit

right now assuming everything is cashed out at the closing price, MARL is up 11.5% in less than 1 week. another 18.5% to go, can he do it by the end of this week?



ps... a few people in the chat were asking me what MARL's price target is and entry points are.. unfortunately MARL doesnt give that, it only spits out picks. so i enter and exit based off of my own insight but since this is computer generated and its claiming 1 week, ill try to exit positions within 2 trading sessions.

if he can actually manage to post 30% averages per week for the next month, do you guys want me to start a thread with his daily pick and then post my entry/exit? so that others can follow without buying it or subscribing to that lame newsletter? btw.. i still didnt get that newsletter and today is monday :P

[Thierry Martin]

if he can actually manage to post 30% averages per week for the next month, do you guys want me to start a thread with his daily pick and then post my entry/exit? so that others can follow without buying it or subscribing to that lame newsletter? btw.. i still didnt get that newsletter and today is monday :P

I think it would be great to see an actual documentation of the trades.

[wallstreetsedge]

thats not a problem, after 1 month, ill do a screen shot and blank out my other trades

[wallstreetsedge]

actually, ill start doing it in my tradeking acct instead of my tradestation so i dont have to blank anything out. i havent really used that one in a few months anyway

[AJLightning]

Excellent...



2412

[reef]

I see a sarcastic, smart ass reply coming in the near future. I dont think he'll be able to hold back. :p

[wallstreetsedge]

haha whats up aj? just made a long post for king in the options section :p

[wallstreetsedge]

MARL says IMNY closed yesterday at 3.10

holy **** this one looks horrible!!

[tony71]

Maybe it picked it for a good reason.

[Thierry Martin]

Maybe it picked it for a good reason.

Tony your link was no good (I removed it)

[wallstreetsedge]

i doubt it.. the short float increased about 15% from nov to dec

[Chubby Khabob]

from what i can see... MARL is killing the mkt now... right now hes up on VITA, ITI, and FA from when i purchased them today. i added more capital today just for the hell of it since he gave me 3 picks over the weekend and also because i only got a partial fill on FA, otherwise i would have left all the capital on FA. i guess its kind of cheating since i said i wouldnt add more capital but i couldnt help it.

500 shrs FA 2.48
500 shrs ITI 3.89
500 shrs VITA 3.25

so far its performing well, lets just see how he holds up at the end of the month. to make it easy, lets not include any trading fees. and to keep it simple, lets use my beginning base amount and added cash as my beginning investment capital so $4510 is my starting position

as of right now MARL is...

up $300 realized profit
up $220 unrealized profit

right now assuming everything is cashed out at the closing price, MARL is up 11.5% in less than 1 week. another 18.5% to go, can he do it by the end of this week?



ps... a few people in the chat were asking me what MARL's price target is and entry points are.. unfortunately MARL doesnt give that, it only spits out picks. so i enter and exit based off of my own insight but since this is computer generated and its claiming 1 week, ill try to exit positions within 2 trading sessions.

if he can actually manage to post 30% averages per week for the next month, do you guys want me to start a thread with his daily pick and then post my entry/exit? so that others can follow without buying it or subscribing to that lame newsletter? btw.. i still didnt get that newsletter and today is monday :P

I'm kinda new at this. If you are "using your own insight" for the exit, what insight did you use in buying it? A chart pattern, technical analysis, fundamental approach? Or was it just a pick from a service?

If you are a knowledgeable trader, why would you be using a "robot"?

And where did the realized profit come from?

How will you use tradeking screen shots after the fact of the purchase? Tradestation is easy to blank out data. Very easy. I'm a little confused by all of this.

Are you not concerned with selling a stock with 50,000 share volume?

I'm new at pennies so I need some help understanding these things.

[Keventerprises]

I'm kinda new at this. If you are "using your own insight" for the exit, what insight did you use in buying it? A chart pattern, technical analysis, fundamental approach? Or was it just a pick from a service?

If you are a knowledgeable trader, why would you be using a "robot"?

And where did the realized profit come from?

How will you use tradeking screen shots after the fact of the purchase? Tradestation is easy to blank out data. Very easy. I'm a little confused by all of this.

Are you not concerned with selling a stock with 50,000 share volume?

I'm new at pennies so I need some help understanding these things.

Read the previous 293 posts on this thread so we don't go through this again.

[netwrangler]

Read the previous 293 posts on this thread so we don't go through this again.Yes, so, having read them, what was your point?

[wallstreetsedge]

its too much to get into all of it... were just trying to determine how a dumb bot can compete. as far as why im using insight to enter and exit a trade.. lets say the last trade on a stock like IMNY was 4 and avg volume is 50k shrs, what if tomorrow it opens up at 5 on 100 shrs? would you really buy into it?

as for exiting, the bot doesnt give you an exit price or any type of strategy it just says.. buy this!

[Luc1Grunt]

Read the previous 293 posts on this thread so we don't go through this again.

I did read the entire thread, twice. That's what promoted my question.

What is your point? Are you trying to answer the question for kt? Why be defensive?

Edit: Where the hell did my question go?

[Luc1Grunt]

Start over: Why are you using this service with all the posts exposing it as a fraud? All the ********* has been exposed that it is a scam.

Why would anyone subscribe after reading this? Don't insult the intelligence of this forum by claiming to 'run an experiment". That is garbage and sticking your money on the line is one helluva way to get "cred" if that is what is important.
\
@ssclown.

[wallstreetsedge]

i just ran marl and got another pick... EVOL

[wallstreetsedge]

what do you guys think? split between IMNY and EVOL or just into EVOL?

[wallstreetsedge]

just jumped into EVOL 1000 shr @ 2.90

[ABAPC]

I don't know anyone here at all, and I honestly don't know anything about the market, but I am desperately trying to learn and become more savvy. That having been said, I really enjoy the talk about Doublestocks before all the infighting began.

Can we get back to talking about them? Did they truly pick EVOL? It's getting killed today. kthomllc - are you ok? did you get out?

Or am I totally wrong about this? Please advise someone who knows very little...

[Keventerprises]

just jumped into EVOL 1000 shr @ 2.90

Hi Kt et al,
MARL's recent picks EVOL and VITA are down substantially, but IOGH and TRGD are way up days later.

Please keep us posted on the picks as they come in. Where were you able to download the PC based test version? Thanks again!

Kevin

p.s. Do you like wine? I have a warehouse full if you need to console today's donation to this cause.

[TonyM]

I don't know anyone here at all, and I honestly don't know anything about the market, but I am desperately trying to learn and become more savvy. That having been said, I really enjoy the talk about Doublestocks before all the infighting began.

Can we get back to talking about them? Did they truly pick EVOL? It's getting killed today. kthomllc - are you ok? did you get out?

Or am I totally wrong about this? Please advise someone who knows very little...

I'm not sure how many times it has to be said that doublingstocks is a scam. What more is there to say on the subject?

If you know nothing about the market then you would be well advised to stay well away from the pennies, there are sharks and there are shark foods, guess which one you will be the moment you jump into the penny sea?

There are a plethora of educational posts here that you can research with use of the search function. If you have a direct question try posting it up. Also note that www.investopedia.com is a good resource for many of your questions.

If you feel that the required reading is too much work, then you will not succeed at trading. Contrary to popular opinion, it is a very difficult profession and demands a lot of your time.

[Keventerprises]

:lol: Good news! ETIM just announced plans to merge with Tombstone...:wink:

[wallstreetsedge]

evol gave a loss
jumped into marls next pick VLNC

[Keventerprises]

evol gave a loss
jumped into marls next pick VLNC

Hi Kthomllc,
What did you get in at on VLNC? It's up 6.6% for the day. When did you get your information? Thanks for keeping us posted!

Kevin

[OutlawPajamas]

I am not a trader but enjoy fantasy sports and so decided to join the Wall Street Survivor fantasy profile contest because college football is over and I need a fix. Now, I know nothing about penny stocks or trading or anything of that nature but I enjoy victory so I set out to learn all that I needed to know this evening. It seemed to make sense to me that I should look for stocks that I could buy at a reasonably low price that might have the potential to balloon rather than buy Google or Monsanto or something that is valuable but probably won't make me a ton of money in the short run. You all may be snickering at this but it seems logical to me and in my search I came to an add with an irresistible robot image (I have a sick addiction to sci-fi) and my curiosity was piqued (if I had been born a cat, nine lives would not have cut it). The add was inviting to any nerd but I am no fool and so set out to get the lowdown on Marl. My detective work lead me to this discussion after first coming here http://skeltoac.com/2007/11/27/marl-the-stock-robot-scam/ which explains the identity of Michael (I do not want to be around when Karma gets a hold of this guy). Just in case my link does not work here is what I think is important to know about Alex "Michael"...

Paul
Posted December 16, 2007 at 11:35 am | Permalink

doublingstocks.com and pokerbobby.com are both registered with GoDaddy.

I checked the whois info for both, and found the Admin and Tech contacts for both sites are the same:

Hunter, Alex hunter.alex@gmail.com
fusionwebspace
12 Well Ridge Close
Red House Farm
Whitley Bay,
Tyne and Wear
NE25 9PN
United Kingdom
07835191190

That’s in the UK folks, not in Seattle - and explains the 44 code in the phone number (+44 is the international code for the UK).

I used http://192.com to search for “Hunter” at the “NE25 9PN” post code, and found two people from the 2002 - 2006 electoral roll: Brian J Hunter and June D Hunter.

So either Alex doesn’t exist, or he hadn’t reached 16 years old by 2006, or this is some relative’s address (eg, his mum+dad’s house).

Don’t send them your money. You’re being scammed.:roll:

I am sorry for such a long post when I have never posted here before but I just cannot believe that anyone could argue that this is not an obvious scam or think that they may be able to benefit from the scheme. The only people that will make money are Alex (Michael) the pre-teen scammer and whatever evil minions he has paid to troll these sites and defend his scam. He is truly pure evil with even his own pyramid scheme http://www.business-opportunities.biz/2007/05/07/perfect-wealth-formula/.

There is one more thing before I leave the world of high finance behind me forever. Someone mentioned that when you give your billing information, it may be stolen for future identity theft and I sure would not put it past "Micalex" so if you bought the newsletter or some form of Marl, I would write a letter to the credit reporting agencies as soon as possible and put a watch on your accounts. It can never hurt to play it safe, especially when you are dealing with prepubescent masterminds. Good luck to you all but I think I will stick with my poverty rather than continue my financial education, scammers do not have much interest in the very poor at least I hope they don't.

[wallstreetsedge]

sorry i havent been updating, been getting caught up in a lot of work and other trades s i havent been doing all of marls picks but it did give me a really good one yesterday morning IDGJ which is up significantly

[ABAPC]

I am really new at all of this but I am trying to do as much research as I can. Does anyone know the name of a good online broker for trading penny stocks. I tried using Sharebuilder but they wont let me trade them. Where can I find a good penny stockbroker?

Thanks.

[Thierry Martin]

I have archived all the flame posts from this thread into a new thread here (http://www.onlinetradersforum.com/showthread.php?t=17369).

[Luc1Grunt]

They make recomendations to their subscribers after the market closes. Their subscribers execute buy orders that night and it drives up the price of the stock the next day "within 30 minutes of the market opening", as promised. After everybody buys, they sell off within the next few days and the stocks level off.

I have almost reached the conclusion that they are full of sht!

Again it's hard to make money when your buy price is at the market open of the next day after it's recommended. They send out an email, let's say Sunday night. You place a "buy" order. Your order does not go in till Monday morning, and by that time it has gone up 30% overnight from after hours trading.


So the only people making good money from these picks are the ones sending the newsletter. They can buy it before they recommend it and take all the profit.

Yes after running it a few times I can see that it just retrieves data from some server. I don't think there is any analysis going on from the software at all. It simply displays whatever Ticker Symbol is at the server.

Also if the link for download is dead someone can upload to rapidshare and post it.

Congratulations... you're coming to the same conclusions that were reached for you long ago on this and other threads!

BTW, fire is hot, ice is cold and water is wet... hope that helps:wink:

I hear the bleating of sheep... yes, most definitely... its growing louder... look in the distance, a green pasture... no wait!

A Cliff!

Come back, turn around... doh8O

Poor sheep... where was the Shepherd?

Fair enough.

As I said, I don't trade pennies....however; I have occassionally slipped in and out as the stock is pumped through a forum(s) and have been "lucky" enough to get out with profit.

I find penny stock "trading" fascinating you could say. :lol:

Good Lord did that "sorc" come from here somewhere?! Too Funny!!!! The length they won't go to suck $47 bucks from people!

I signed up just to prove a point and help some people out here, but apparently that doesn't prove to be too helpful as most ignored the hilariously obvious message in the thread and continue to debate the plausibility of this and whether its real or not... hmmmm, oh well.

Run sheep run8O

Glowing revues

[Luc1Grunt]

Hold on there Skipper....I don't recall anyone saying you couldn't make money from pennies. I know myself and Hedge both talked about riding the gravy train while there is an opportunity. I have played them and will play them in the future IF I see them hyped up all to hell and think I can get in and out for a ton of shares. I personnaly feel they are the unltimate "Suckers Game", but that is my opinion only.

The scrutiny came from the method of "hype" and those poor souls led to believe they can get something for nothing from someone who appears to want to help them. That game has been going on long before we were born and will go on long after we are dead.

Bottom line.....NOTHING NEW HERE. It's just a few folks had to call BullShat on this particular Snake Oil marketer (who is still advertising on this very forum mind you).

Learn to fish and you will not have to settle for carp thrown from a truck.

:mrgreen:

I would just like to add that they have not given me my $20 for reading the page. They say we will paypal you $20 or $40 for the salvation army. I chose $20 for myself and am yet to see it in my paypal account.

That is classic. It opens at .25 and is down .02 on the day thus far.

I love doubling stocks!

HSXI Sucks, its all hype! NLIA Sucks, its all hype! TRGD sucks, its all hype.

Yes... follow me my sheep, hearken unto my voice...

Taken directly from their "Terms of Agreement"

"doublingstocks.com is planned to be compensated a total of seventy five thousand dollars for a thirty day profile coverage of hsxi from a non controlling third party Nothing on this website is a solicitation to buy or sell any securities."

Gettin it from all angles.

Thinking of starting a newsletter...anyone want to get in on it. It's called Darts & Ouija.

I'll sue both of yuz for stealing my secret system!

This dead horse needs another flogging. The deception sinks a bit lower.
[I am no longer a subscriber, got my money back from Clickbank (no questions asked). ]
So, I got the email at the bottom of this post today.


Also, if you go to the DS website you'll see that "Michael" now lists his address as:
"Oh and by the way Michael's company "Global Marketing Corporation Ltd" is located at 93 S. Jackson Street #56595, Seattle, WASHINGTON 98104-2818, UNITED STATES. That's right across from City Hall and exactly opposite the Public Library. If you have any questions, you can open a support ticket at his help desk (http://support.doublingstocks.com) or call him on (44)7835400828." (yahoo maps doesn't find this as a valid "street" address, but it IS a remote mail address http://www.earthclassmail.com/remote-addresses also used by indulgence handbags. http://www.indulgencehandbags.com/contact.html )
Next:
This UK site (http://www.ukdata.com/numbers/06074578.html)and this one (http://www.simplycreditreports.com/company-number/06074578.html) lists them as being at the quail ridge address with a twist
"12 WELL RIDGE CLOSE
RED HOUSE
FARM
WHITLEY BAY
TYNE AND WEAR
NE25 9PN"
which was previously demonstrated to be a ruse.
And he has a new video up proving to the perps Marl can pick stocks using hsxi, the one he says he scanned the boards for....:oops:
Also note his attention to detail is lacking as he forgot to update his new scam mailing address in the email.

"Carlj, This is about YOU!
Michael to me

show details 12:48 AM (22 hours ago)



Reply


Carlj

I'm emailing to let you know DoublingStocks will
be releasing a stock pick... In just 12 hours,
which we believe will be a huge homerun.

And if you're not already a member of DoublingStocks...

Then Carl, I'm sorry but you're going to miss out
on a very profitable newsletter.

In addition I'm emailing to let you know we are almost
at full capacity.

Currently we have just 26 spaces left to join the DoublingStocks
newsletter.

And if you go to:


http://getresponse.com/t/9613688/620551/190875498/


... And scroll right down to the bottom.

It'll have a big black number, this is updated in real time,
and once that hits 0... The newsletter will be closed for good.


Best Regards,
Michael Cohen


P.S: If you're opening this email more than 12 hours after it
was sent then, I'm sorry but...

...There most likely won't be any spaces left.

Check here: http://getresponse.com/t/9613688/620551/190875498/



Global Marketing Corporation
12 Well Ridge Close
Whitley Bay
Tyne and Wear NE25 9PN
United Kingdom
--
To unsubscribe or to change your contact details, visit:"

As of my posting above http://www.indulgencehandbags.com/contact.html has removed the remote mail address from their contact page. Hmmmm, wonder why they'd suddenly do that.:?:

It appears Michael has also removed his video PROVING hsxi was the PROOF that Doubling Stocks was the real deal. Odd he'd want to remove such proof.

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=24568899

This is from Oct 29 post, "Doubling Stocks planned to be compensated a total of forty thousand dollars for thirty day profile coverage to promote TRGD.PK" http://www.pinksheetstocksblog.com/

Stock Trading "Robot"... (http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/iclk?sa=l&ai=BT-ZDOt4-R6OyKZOk4QKLxei4Cub-jTSS4e22A-Kf8_oV0NOQARABGAMg5uaZAjgAUIj3oCZgyZ7Yh-ijoBWgAeHLvP8DqgEKOTQwNjY4Mzg1ObIBGnd3dy5vbmxpbmV0 cmFkZXJzZm9ydW0uY29tugEJMjM0eDYwX2FzyAEB2gEraHR0cD ovL3d3dy5vbmxpbmV0cmFkZXJzZm9ydW0uY29tL2luZGV4LnBo cOABAsACAagDAcgDB-gDa_UDAgEAAA&num=3&adurl=http://dtcoach2.affstocks.hop.clickbank.net/%3Ftid%3DG201ST&client=ca-pub-5629832292254368&nm=18)
Earns You $346.77 Per Week (Managing $1000 Capital). aff.

This is what the link at the top of this forum says. (by the way, it does not offend me in any way).

SO, has anyone realized even a small percentage of the claims....

anyone?

Hello?

So if I multiply the trading capital as stated above ($1000) by 10 I would earn 3467.70 a week. Multiplied by 100 would be 34,670.77 a week. Damn.....So with $100,000, even if I only make half of what they claim I will make $17335 a week. SOLD!!!!!!! If anyone wants to pool a little money, we should easily be able to gross about 2 million a week because I will not stop with my 100k. PM me, I'll get you in the pool. I'll take care of margin.

It might seem they are marketing to those with money they could not afford to lose. Hmmmmm.

Hold on, TV commercial says I can be a millionaire web merchant for $39.95...let me grab my wallet and phone.

OK, where were we...anyone?

Hello?

:roll:

I think I'll pop this to the top daily.

This beat goes on....

[TonyM]

Damn, I've missed some comedy gold here, Micro, yer cracking me up.

[Luc1Grunt]

it's a scam im afraid

I unfortunately bought into this scam before I came across this forum. I was hoping to jump into the penny stock game with this "tool" but apparently its useless. So now that I have it, is there any way I can profit from it.

Today the newsletter suggested we invest in SGUS, which is up 52%.

If I had placed an order right as the market opened would I have been able to profit from this stock?

Now that it is up 52%, if I had purchased and held onto the stock, would it be hard for me to sell out now?

Also, what is a safe amount of money to be investing in these stocks in terms of being able to sell them after they have gone up or down?

Thanks in advance,

Doug

I just gotta put in my two cents here. Wow, this guy Michael is the lowest of the low. I'm amazed that anyone can come here, read this thread, and still be interested in subscribing to his BS robot picks!!

To recap - for two fake picks, he got paid over a hundred grand from the companies themselves, for selling them to you, hundreds if not thousands of subscribers who bought in @ $47 a piece - and he bought the stock the night before he told all his subscribers about it, so he could pull this pump and dump scheme and make money selling to all his suckers who are buying - so he makes $47 X however many subscribers, over a hundred grand, and however much he can get out of the bogus stock pick he's promoting - and yet people still come here wanting to get in on his action??

This absurdly rich con artist is preying on people with big hopes and not a lot of money and making the big bucks in 3 ways off the suckers he plays... the lowest of the low. The companies are throwing money at him, while the poor suckers he tricks are mostly just throwing their money away in blind faith on worthless picks because they can't get in and out fast enough...

And not only does he fake this whole robot story, he uses a totally fake name and address. Wonder who he has the checks made out to when he's dealing with the companies that pay him to promote? Who is this guy, and how can what he's doing be the slightest big legal? Sounds like a huge scam to me!

awww thanks ... :)
This scam looks vaguely familiar... the fake UK mailing address, the probably disposable phone number, the inability to reach them on the phone, the style of writing - either these con artists are all the same or it could be that I recognize their style from when I was scammed in a whole different business sector a couple years back. Gotta love their imagination, the magic genie, pulling doubling stock picks out of a robot. lol...

Ok I still get the newsletters....quite fun to read, and depressing for those that give in to the scam...The problem is with the last play you could not have bought in at the open price because the pick didn't come out until a couple hours after open....with stuff like this the focus is for the scammed to be buying while the scammer is selling

Anyone who subscribed to doublingstocks can make a quick $47.00 by going to clickbank and telling them you were scammed and you want a refund, if that fails contest the charge with your financial institution. Other than that good luck.

(Hopefully this tag will work and get this thread listed on the doublingstocks page at technorati)
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I too seem to have fallen into this trap.
Ive just sent off my refund request to ClickBank.

I agree with whats being said about this weeks pick coming out late, so i contested it with DS.

Here are some replys. Short and not answering questions I asked. A**holes.

"Recieved : from gr-perl2-0-114.v.l ([192.168.0.114]) by mm2.getresponse.com with QMQP; 26 Nov 2007 11:30:53 -0500 (EST)" This is them sending it.
"Recieved : from mm2.getresponse.com ([207.8.198.31]) by ironport-mx01.maxnet.net.nz with ESMTP; 27 Nov 2007 05:30:54 +1300" This is my ISP recieving it.
"Recieved : from ironport-smtp01.maxnet.net.nz (ironport-smtp01.maxnet.net.nz [123.100.71.100]) by mailfilter03.maxnet.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C5E27EC75 for <mrt@maxnet.co.nz>; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 05:30:55 +1300 (NZDT)" This is it being delivered to my mailbox by my ISP.

I emailed them these facts and got this....

Hello,

The stock opened at 55c and that was when we made the reccomendation.

Best Regards
Support

So i replied....

Yes it did open at 55c but you didnt send out emails until 11:30am, 2 hours later, by then the stock was at .88c.

reply.... seemingly personally by Micheal.

Hello,

We released the pick during market open because we perceive it to be safer for our investors
encase there has been any change in the market overnight.

Best Regards,
Michael Cohen

Sent them another....

How come my email didnt get sent by you untill 11:30am EST that morning?

Awaiting a reply.... dont like my chances...


Dinvest : You got yours at 9:55 ???

I love that the guy's name is "Michael", just like in the movie Boiler Room!

Can anyone upload Marl again? I don't want to pay $97 for it. I just subscribed so I will check out the newsletters and then try to get a refund.

Latest email:
I apologize for not sending out today's stock pick, we used
Marl to monitor the stock closely and felt that the stock
wasn't at its optimum entry point.

We anticipate the stock will drop to an even lower, more
profitable level over the next few days and thus I urge you
to check your emails (around market open, 9:30am EST).

By the way, we were running affiliate ads for DoublingStocks.com in rotation in our own ad space at the top of the forum pages a few weeks ago, and although sales were brisk at first, after a couple of weeks the refunds started coming in - I pulled all the ads, because we will not ads for programs that get more than 1 or 2% returns or refunds. (The google ads with the red arrows you see are served by Google, so sometimes you will see ads for DoublingStocks.com from third parties or even DoublingStocks.com paying Google for adspace.)

I feel cheated that they never tried to sell me the modern miracle stock picking robot. I only got the opportunity to get screwed with the newsletter. :cry:


Sun Times gives this thread two thumbs way up!!

[wallstreetsedge]

today.. marl's pick is CPST, i picked up at a cost average of 1.69

lets see what it does tomorrow

[wallstreetsedge]

I am really new at all of this but I am trying to do as much research as I can. Does anyone know the name of a good online broker for trading penny stocks. I tried using Sharebuilder but they wont let me trade them. Where can I find a good penny stockbroker?

Thanks.

try zecco.com

[Thierry Martin]

today.. marl's pick is CPST, i picked up at a cost average of 1.69

lets see what it does tomorrow

You need to post this sort of thing with a timestamp - in other words, at the exact time you got the pick, or at least before the stock jumps 50%. Anybody can say they bought a stock earlier today at whatever price. But I want to see the post in real time, where anyone can reproduce your results.

Do you understand why that is needed?

[AJLightning]

today.. marl's pick is CPST, i picked up at a cost average of 1.69

lets see what it does tomorrow



CPST has been on A LOT of peoples radar! For AWHILE! Several in the chat can vouch for that8O

[aiki14]

You need to post this sort of thing with a timestamp - in other words, at the exact time you got the pick, or at least before the stock jumps 50%. Anybody can say they bought a stock earlier today at whatever price. But I want to see the post in real time, where anyone can reproduce your results.

Do you understand why that is needed?

Actually in this particular case it isn't necessary as CPST closed at 1.69 only 3 cents off the days high, I'll take someone's word for it when they essentially say they got it at the high. If anyone bought the stock today they got it for less or so close it doesn't matter.

[Thierry Martin]

Actually in this particular case it isn't necessary as CPST closed at 1.69 only 3 cents off the days high, I'll take someone's word for it when they essentially say they got it at the high. If anyone bought the stock today they got it for less or so close it doesn't matter.

Thanks aiki14, this is true. However, let's say they promoted the stock after market close and so it opens tomorrow morning, half a million pumping emails later, up whatever percentage - and then somebody reads the post and says wow they recommended it and it went up - I would want to know that the recommendation was made during the day when it was still possible to buy the stock at the quoted price.

[aiki14]

Thanks aiki14, this is true. However, let's say they promoted the stock after market close and so it opens tomorrow morning, half a million pumping emails later, up whatever percentage - and then somebody reads the post and says wow they recommended it and it went up - I would want to know that the recommendation was made during the day when it was still possible to buy the stock at the quoted price.

I guess you could be correct Thierry, especially since the OP is employed by a financial firm that appears low rent at best, and he has made questionable statements that no reputable "investment specialist" would make. The FINRA broker check website is down right now, but I'll do a check in the morning. Sorry I defended this character.

I don't actually know what an investment specialist is, probably just a title they give someone who holds no legitimate licenses.

www.worldwidewm.com click on "our team" you'll figure it out. He used to have another website www.watchtvgetpoor.com

[reef]

I don't actually know what an investment specialist is, probably just a title they give someone who holds no legitimate licenses.




Hmmmmm.... No license required? Well then I am an Investment Specialist too! :mrgreen:

[aiki14]

Hmmmmm.... No license required? Well then I am an Investment Specialist too! :mrgreen:

Some other guy at his bucket shop is an investment engineer. I want to change my title from forum leader to Pecuniary Remuneration Technician so I can sound all official without really being official. Won't that be fun?

[reef]

Some other guy at his bucket shop is an investment engineer. I want to change my title from forum leader to Pecuniary Remuneration Technician so I can sound all official without really being official. Won't that be fun?

Sounds good to me! Now, if I only knew what that meant without looking it up, I might consider myself smart. :confused:

[1979Trader]

I apologize if this has already been posted somewhere else in this thread or on the forum but I did not see it anywhere and I thought everyone might be interested:

http://www.oneworldincome.com/2008/01/06/doublingstockscom-a-stock-promotion-scam/

[Thierry Martin]

I apologize if this has already been posted somewhere else in this thread or on the forum but I did not see it anywhere and I thought everyone might be interested:

http://www.oneworldincome.com/2008/01/06/doublingstockscom-a-stock-promotion-scam/

Thanks 1979Trader, I haven't seen that before. Within that article there is another link to a previous article specifically about Doubling Stocks:

http://www.oneworldincome.com/2007/12/02/stock-trading-“robot”-an-online-marketer’s-scam-exposed/

[netwrangler]

I apologize if this has already been posted somewhere else in this thread or on the forum but I did not see it anywhere and I thought everyone might be interested:

http://www.oneworldincome.com/2008/01/06/doublingstockscom-a-stock-promotion-scam/
Great post, 1979Trader.

Your link kinda gets to the heart of the matter.

Thanks

[Thierry Martin]

Here is another link to a blog with comments from users.

http://skeltoac.com/2007/11/27/marl-the-stock-robot-scam/

Especially interesting is this comment about the inner workings of the software:

http://skeltoac.com/2007/11/27/marl-the-stock-robot-scam/#comment-1479

[microhedge]

Good links Thierry, thanks for the post.

DoublingStocks.com may well be the biggest JOKE to date:thumpdown:

Not that we haven't proven that about 45 times here at OTF already, but hey who's counting?!?!?!!!!!

[suketu9]

I bought the doublingstock newsletter and marl software for 47 + 97. Since I found out it is a scam I asked clickbank for refund. They were kind and gave me refund for both in a day.

[whatasuckeriam]

Man what a sucker I am -- I knew i should have done my research first but the robot concept was soooo cool. I think the fake azz photo of the laptops is what got me LOL.. That and the Youtube video of him going to the Nytimes sites.

Man what a sucker I am .. Anyone reading this .. don't sign up, def don't install that BS software, and if you got took like I did .. contact Clickbank .. they will refund your $$ no questions asked.

Good luck ..

[Keventerprises]

Here is another link to a blog with comments from users.

http://skeltoac.com/2007/11/27/marl-the-stock-robot-scam/

Especially interesting is this comment about the inner workings of the software:

http://skeltoac.com/2007/11/27/marl-the-stock-robot-scam/#comment-1479

This is only for information and curiosity, for net changes during today only 1/17/08:
Marl Watchlist (Accumulated YTD) for changes today: -2.39%
Cramer YTD Watchlist/Charity Portfolio for changes today: -2.69%

We averaged -3.05% for today.

[Rocket]

I am a new member to this forum and was reading all of the post about DS. I did order the thing and guess what! Its been about 3 1/2 weeks and I have not recieved 1 stock pick from the stinkin robot! Their reason after I e-mailed them about it was that some of their comcast members weren't recieving their e-mail news letters for some reason. They didn't seem to have any problem sending their response to my comcast e-mail address though. I will be asking Click-bank for my money back also. Thanks for all the information!

Rocket

[aiki14]

I am a new member to this forum and was reading all of the post about DS. I did order the thing and guess what! Its been about 3 1/2 weeks and I have not recieved 1 stock pick from the stinkin robot! Their reason after I e-mailed them about it was that some of their comcast members weren't recieving their e-mail news letters for some reason. They didn't seem to have any problem sending their response to my comcast e-mail address though. I will be asking Click-bank for my money back also. Thanks for all the information!

Rocket

Rocket, please let us know that clickbank sent your money back. One of the ways we can stop this scam is to take away their funding sources, if clickbank gets too many refund requests they will discontinue their relationship with doubling stocks.
Welcome to the forum, you'll find better information here than you'll get from the scammers.

[garyak]

I tried Marl and figured the pump and dump angle right away. Click Bank refunded no problems. Has anyone noticed on the testimonial videos..the Edward Payner guy? I'd bet my life that he's really Don Lapre...a well known scammer. I recognized the voice and mannerisms...looks like him even with the shades and goofy hat disguise. Birds of a feather....

[Richway]

Yeah, I got scammed out of $47 unless I get it back from CB.

But why in God's name is the big "Doubling Stocks" Paid add on the bottom of this page (Forum)?

New here, I don't get why it and several other dubious at best adds are all over on this site?

:?::thumpdown:

Richway

[Thierry Martin]

Yeah, I got scammed out of $47 unless I get it back from CB.

But why in God's name is the big "Doubling Stocks" Paid add on the bottom of this page (Forum)?

New here, I don't get why it and several other dubious at best adds are all over on this site?

:?::thumpdown:

Richway

:welcome:) Richway!

Ads are served by Google, go to TheStreet.com Forbes Motley Fool all the major sites serve these ads they are network ads, not our in-house ads. We don't control the ads on an ad by ad basis.

[Vesken]

Greetings everyone,

Yes, I bought into DS after a period of consideration based on no trading experience. Let's get past the I'm a sucker thing, because if nothing else, since signing up I'm learning alot about trading.
I too have noticed that my email picks seem to come out later that they should, I have yet to receive one on a Sunday night.
Anyways, the one I did play on once my brokerage account was ready was MTTG.OB. The email came in, I looked at the chart, and it had jumped the day before, but the projected was 1.40, so with market close at 0.86, I placed an order of 1006 shares, which got filled the next morning (Thursday) at 0.91 c/shr.
Today's market close is 0.65 and I'm seriously let down.
Now if I'm being bilked, I'd rather learn something about the stock market at a price if nothing else. For a pump and dump, there still seems to be money to be made, as long as your at the very beginning of the spike.
Would everyone agree that a decent DS strategy could be that if the spike has already happened, forget it, but if its still low and steady, then go in?

Apologies to the group for getting on board so late in the game, but I really hope to make the most of it, and will share my experiences.

~Vesken

[Thierry Martin]

:welcome:) to OnlineTradersForum.com Vesken!

You should always understand why you are making a trade - using a stock picking service is OK as long as you understand why you are following the advice. For instance, Cramer recommends stocks every night, but he encourages you to decide for yourself whether it is a good idea or not. And he offers his own rationalization. But if you subscribe to a service that is clearly being paid to promote stocks, the only way you can profit is to ride the wave by getting in before the masses. Not very likely unless you have advance knowledge of the pick.

It's not impossible to make money with a service like doublingstocks if you are clever and you can figure out which stocks deserve the pump and which ones don't. If they aren't penny stocks you can short them for a profit when you know that they are going up on a pump. (If they are thinly traded.) That however requires work on your part, blindly buying when you are given the stock is dangerous, and you will lose money.

Some people I know make a good living shorting Cramer's most outlandish bullish calls, right at the high when they gap up. These are dangerous ways to trade. What I'm saying is that most likely the only way you can make money with a service like DoublingStocks is to game their system, but the actual service is probably nothing more than a trap for people who believe that trading is easy and they can get rich quick by paying $49.95 a month for stock picks.

I guess you already suspect that or you wouldn't be posting here!

[Thierry Martin]

It should be obvious to most people that a cartoon robot can't pick stocks reliably.

[Keventerprises]

It should be obvious to most people that a cartoon robot can't pick stocks reliably.

It actually might be best done without emotion, Mr Spock.

[Vesken]

Well, since my last post, I have read almost everything on these forums about DS(BS). My plan is to see what happens on Monday morning, and if not headed up very quickly I will dump at a loss and understand that this mistake cost me money, but I will none the less be glad for the learning experience.

I'd like to thank all of you on this forum for your insightful posts, and I have requested my money back from CB (will post how that turns out). I've clearly given up on the quick flip idea based on the newsletter. I wish I had had enough time with my busy IT schedule to do all the reading about DS and especially that Earnings disclaimer about MTTG! But hey, you live and you learn. The stock market was always something I'd wanted to know more about, and getting my feet wet was a good lesson. I still understand that playing the pump game has its merit.

I'd really like to get my hands on that marl software; the eariler link posted to a free download no longer seems to work.. Does anyone have it available (other than DS!) ? I'll run it on a dummy machine for kicks, its the best way to at least watch the picks for myself before I receive my retardedly late newsletter email.

Hey, it may be a scam, but as sophisticated a scam as it is, the pumping still happens, and if there are waves being made, some can ride them.

Once again, thanks to all you keen posters out there, us lurkers really appreciate your time and efforts!

:deal::dontknow::pcguru::help::damnmate::listen: :hmmmm: :trytofly::willy::driver::congrats::flybye:

[Wonder]

I'd really like to get my hands on that marl software; the eariler link posted to a free download no longer seems to work.. Does anyone have it available (other than DS!) ? I'll run it on a dummy machine for kicks, its the best way to at least watch the picks for myself before I receive my retardedly late newsletter email.

Hey, it may be a scam, but as sophisticated a scam as it is, the pumping still happens, and if there are waves being made, some can ride them.

Once again, thanks to all you keen posters out there, us lurkers really appreciate your time and efforts!

:deal::dontknow::pcguru::help::damnmate::listen: :hmmmm: :trytofly::willy::driver::congrats::flybye:

Here's were I got my copy and there were no virus included :D
Free to all as long as the link stays good.
http://www.mediafire.com/?fb13n31vhwe

[Vesken]

Thank you very much Wondering.

I plan on cutting my losses, selling whats left of MTTG on Monday morning, and sitting back for a bit and trying another marl pick but only if it hasn't jumped yet. I will also consider aiki14's picks. I'm continuing to read guides and will even watch trading lessons online. I want to learn as much as possible about trading, hopefully enough to stop worrying about people's server problems all day long. Currently, I just don't have the time to amass the knowledge of experienced traders, and without having any friend or family involved in trading I have to start where the other such successful traders started: at the bottom.

btw Thierry, it really wasn't the robot that got me :)

I wrote Clickbank for the refund, no response yet, but I'll wait for the week to get going before I pass judgement.

~Vesken

[Keventerprises]

Thank you very much Wondering.

I plan on cutting my losses, selling whats left of MTTG on Monday morning, and sitting back for a bit and trying another marl pick but only if it hasn't jumped yet. I will also consider aiki14's picks. I'm continuing to read guides and will even watch trading lessons online. I want to learn as much as possible about trading, hopefully enough to stop worrying about people's server problems all day long. Currently, I just don't have the time to amass the knowledge of experienced traders, and without having any friend or family involved in trading I have to start where the other such successful traders started: at the bottom.

btw Thierry, it really wasn't the robot that got me :)

I wrote Clickbank for the refund, no response yet, but I'll wait for the week to get going before I pass judgement.

~Vesken

I may be wrong, but I believe MTTG was a pick of the newsletter (1/22) not the robot, which may be secondary late picks...?

Clickbank's # is (800) 390-6035

[Vesken]

I may be wrong, but I believe MTTG was a pick of the newsletter (1/22) not the robot, which may be secondary late picks...?

Clickbank's # is (800) 390-6035

Thanks for Clickbank's number, Keventerprises!

I confirm that MTTG was a newsletter pick, I just got my hands on marl tonight. As previously stated, I did fall for the initial scam, and then later discovered how the whole thing works, hence my withdrawl from DS and will be playing this game from the outside looking in. I agree, the MTTG email came out too late, and that was the key clue for me to watch what marl says and forget about the newsletter. I still understand that marl's pick is probably not analysed at all, but selected through backroom donations to "Micheal". But the pump phenomenon is still real, and wether it be a news report, new contract, new law or a pumped hype, the wave still gets made, and the wave is real. I will play along with aiki14 and Marykay, watching basically for successfull pumps and hopefully ride that wave.

I may be naive to the markets at large, but this ideal of at least getting the to-be-pumped picks before the fraudulent newsletter, would at least put me ahead of "Micheal's" game. I will analyse for a while before playing this time.

Thanks for your input!

~Vesken

[garyak]

Often, after or during the initial dump investors that were considering selling a stock will do just that. This causes an even greater dip. Unless you are present and have a real time platform and the fact that the picks are not timed to be in your favor, it's hard to beat the DS guys at their own game. If you believe the stocks fundamentals suggest a worthy investment, buy after the pump and dump....you may actually buy in better than the pumpers did and avoid the firestorm. Take your profits as the stock corrects itself.

[Keventerprises]

Often, after or during the initial dump investors that were considering selling a stock will do just that. This causes an even greater dip. Unless you are present and have a real time platform and the fact that the picks are not timed to be in your favor, it's hard to beat the DS guys at their own game. If you believe the stocks fundamentals suggest a worthy investment, buy after the pump and dump....you may actually buy in better than the pumpers did and avoid the firestorm. Take your profits as the stock corrects itself.

Amazingly, several days later Marl often has some record breaking highs. Two of their picks both from 1/17 DBMI and EUOT were up 80% and 71% respectively TODAY (11 days later). Granted they are sub-penny stocks at .0003 and .0004 so they only went up by almost their own value. Interestingly, now that I look at them more closely, all of the gain took place yesterday AFTER close in extended hours!! What does that mean???? The effect of any pump and dump is long gone. Who bid it up? I do remember EUOT being at the bottom of the charts too so there is alot of continuing ongoing movement with Marl's picks for some reason. Any thoughts? It went way up yesterday after hours, but didn't get dumped today during regular hours, in fact it held and gained a little more. That doesn't sound like they're pumping and dumping the value at this point or it would have gone down today. I'm going to watch them tomorrow. Maybe they pumped it in the UK or somewhere that closes after us? Who is cooping it up and where does the movement/ motivation come from 11 days later???

[MaryKay1965]

Amazingly, several days later Marl often has some record breaking highs. Two of their picks both from 1/17 DBMI and EUOT were up 80% and 71% respectively TODAY (11 days later). Granted they are sub-penny stocks at .0003 and .0004 so they only went up by almost their own value. Interestingly, now that I look at them more closely, all of the gain took place yesterday AFTER close in extended hours!! What does that mean???? The effect of any pump and dump is long gone. Who bid it up? I do remember EUOT being at the bottom of the charts too so there is alot of continuing ongoing movement with Marl's picks for some reason. Any thoughts? It went way up yesterday after hours, but didn't get dumped today during regular hours, in fact it held and gained a little more. That doesn't sound like they're pumping and dumping the value at this point or it would have gone down today. I'm going to watch them tomorrow. Maybe they pumped it in the UK or somewhere that closes after us? Who is cooping it up and where does the movement/ motivation come from 11 days later???

Keven, Where/when/how did you get these DS recommendations? I did not receive either of these on Marl or the DS newsletter and I have been following these guys' info for quite a while.

[Keventerprises]

Amazingly, several days later Marl often has some record breaking highs. Two of their picks both from 1/17 DBMI and EUOT were up 80% and 71% respectively TODAY (11 days later). Granted they are sub-penny stocks at .0003 and .0004 so they only went up by almost their own value. Interestingly, now that I look at them more closely, all of the gain took place yesterday AFTER close in extended hours!! What does that mean???? The effect of any pump and dump is long gone. Who bid it up? I do remember EUOT being at the bottom of the charts too so there is alot of continuing ongoing movement with Marl's picks for some reason. Any thoughts? It went way up yesterday after hours, but didn't get dumped today during regular hours, in fact it held and gained a little more. That doesn't sound like they're pumping and dumping the value at this point or it would have gone down today. I'm going to watch them tomorrow. Maybe they pumped it in the UK or somewhere that closes after us? Who is cooping it up and where does the movement/ motivation come from 11 days later???

The 1,000,000 plus shares that were traded could have been bought for only $300.00! Maybe Aiki is right that they spend their own budget seeding the stocks themselves. Between days with movement were completely flat.

[garyak]

Amazingly, several days later Marl often has some record breaking highs. Two of their picks both from 1/17 DBMI and EUOT were up 80% and 71% respectively TODAY (11 days later). Granted they are sub-penny stocks at .0003 and .0004 so they only went up by almost their own value. Interestingly, now that I look at them more closely, all of the gain took place yesterday AFTER close in extended hours!! What does that mean???? The effect of any pump and dump is long gone. Who bid it up? I do remember EUOT being at the bottom of the charts too so there is alot of continuing ongoing movement with Marl's picks for some reason. Any thoughts? It went way up yesterday after hours, but didn't get dumped today during regular hours, in fact it held and gained a little more. That doesn't sound like they're pumping and dumping the value at this point or it would have gone down today. I'm going to watch them tomorrow. Maybe they pumped it in the UK or somewhere that closes after us? Who is cooping it up and where does the movement/ motivation come from 11 days later???

Who knows? There may be a number of reasons. There could be several entities promoting a stock at the same time, using different methods to do so and on different timetables for their respective campaigns. DS, GreenBaron and at least 3 newsletters were promoting NLIA at the same time. If you were to back research individual stocks, you may find press releases or other news that stimulated activity. It could be something as simple as the holder of a large position finding something better and selling off to reinvest elsewhere but other investors may perceive this simple sale as something serious happening. Just guessing!:eek2:

[Keventerprises]

Keven, Where/when/how did you get these DS recommendations? I did not receive either of these on Marl or the DS newsletter and I have been following these guys' info for quite a while.

I'm going from my Marl notes which say 1/17 DBMI 'Undervalued' and EUOT 'Strong Technical Play'. I am taking more detailed notes now but that was from the robot, and definetly put on my Ameritrade Watchlist without question, and the 17th was a Thursday so I'm pretty sure of them. 1,000,000 shares of either can be bought for $300.00 though...? No one else was buying it, so why 11 days later? Who bought them? UK? It looks like they bought their own stock to drive up the price, thereby manipulating their own market! I'm going to watch them as possible shorts tomorrow, but they did not go down today on a previous high close. May be hangers on who bought it yesterday holding hope.

Where's that guy who knew about the NRMX Canadian Insider wife buying???

[MaryKay1965]

I'm going from my Marl notes which say 1/17 DBMI 'Undervalued' and EUOT 'Strong Technical Play'. I am taking more detailed notes now but that was from the robot, and definetly put on my Ameritrade Watchlist without question, and the 17th was a Thursday so I'm pretty sure of them.

That's strange, cause on 1-17 Marl gave me the recommendation of: UPFC.

Are you sure you weren't looking in the top window (analyzing window) instead of bottom window (stocks to buy)???

Also, have you been following my Marl posts and have they been agreeing or disagreeing with your Marl picks???

It would be totally out of the ordinary if my Marl was giving different picks than your Marl.

[Keventerprises]

Who knows? There may be a number of reasons. There could be several entities promoting a stock at the same time, using different methods to do so and on different timetables for their respective campaigns. DS, GreenBaron and at least 3 newsletters were promoting NLIA at the same time. If you were to back research individual stocks, you may find press releases or other news that stimulated activity. It could be something as simple as the holder of a large position finding something better and selling off to reinvest elsewhere but other investors may perceive this simple sale as something serious happening. Just guessing!:eek2:

I hear you. What stood out to me about these was that all of the gain occurred after hours after the previous day's (Friday 1/25) close, and the entire 1,360,000 shares were bought with around $400.00 total. That doesn't indicate multiple buyers!!! Were a bunch of people bidding it up a little at a time with a total of 40 $10.00 purchases?? No, that was one buyer, and doesn't seem like a coincidence to me. It seems to have been being promoted somewhere else for Friday's close of business sometime after US close. Did Asia get these for Marls picks on Friday???

Cc: Aiki

[Keventerprises]

That's strange, cause on 1-17 Marl gave me the recommendation of: UPFC.

Are you sure you weren't looking in the top window (analyzing window) instead of bottom window (stocks to buy)???

Also, have you been following my Marl posts and have they been agreeing or disagreeing with your Marl picks???

It would be totally out of the ordinary if my Marl was giving different picks than your Marl.

Your Marl picks have consistently matched mine, and since I had 2 noted for the same day on 1/17, then one must have been from the newsletter on the same day. I am taking more detailed notes on this now that the interest has heated up. This is why I was curious about Marl and had any hope for it, in spite of it's garbage execution which does not even give a price in or out, so there is no commitment to when, where or why it's being given.

[garyak]

I'm going from my Marl notes which say 1/17 DBMI 'Undervalued' and EUOT 'Strong Technical Play'. I am taking more detailed notes now but that was from the robot, and definetly put on my Ameritrade Watchlist without question, and the 17th was a Thursday so I'm pretty sure of them. 1,000,000 shares of either can be bought for $300.00 though...? No one else was buying it, so why 11 days later? Who bought them? UK? It looks like they bought their own stock to drive up the price, thereby manipulating their own market! I'm going to watch them as possible shorts tomorrow, but they did not go down today on a previous high close. May be hangers on who bought it yesterday holding hope.

Where's that guy who knew about the NRMX Canadian Insider wife buying???

Just a there's more than one way to skin a cat and big league pitchers have more than one pitch, stock manipulators are not one trick ponies. The DS guys are sophisticated and know that from time to time they must throw a change up or a slider to compliment their fast ball. They may even play fair once in a while or take pre-calculated losses just to appear more realistic..no one wins all the time! It's not all that uncommon for traders with sufficient capital behind them to run a stock up, pull the plug, then short it taking large profits going both ways. The players just behind the curve get hosed.:frown:

[Keventerprises]

Just a there's more than one way to skin a cat and big league pitchers have more than one pitch, stock manipulators are not one trick ponies. The DS guys are sophisticated and know that from time to time they must throw a change up or a slider to compliment their fast ball. They may even play fair once in a while or take pre-calculated losses just to appear more realistic..no one wins all the time! It's not all that uncommon for traders with sufficient capital behind them to run a stock up, pull the plug, then short it taking large profits going both ways. The players just behind the curve get hosed.:frown:

On two that I watched for movement, alot of the upward movement was after hours, and then stays flat the next day or goes down, as if buyers were waiting for the big bang and it already happened. The release of the pick comes sometime overnight, maybe Marl already bought theirs and then release the pick. The question is why does it go up after hours? Who's buying it, their customers in the UK already got the pick earlier?? Is the Robot pick released at the same time worldwide? Do you think Marl releases to regional areas/subscribers. Or, if everyone gets it at our midnight, then the UK gets it when it is 4pm here. The question is how can we get the pick earlier?? When it's 4pm here today, it will already be Midnight there. Maybe they get their pick sooner.

MTTG was down almost 50% in the last 2 days, now it's up 22% today so far. I'm going to watch for what's channeling in case theyre cycling consistently.

[MaryKay1965]

Just a there's more than one way to skin a cat and big league pitchers have more than one pitch, stock manipulators are not one trick ponies. The DS guys are sophisticated and know that from time to time they must throw a change up or a slider to compliment their fast ball. They may even play fair once in a while or take pre-calculated losses just to appear more realistic..no one wins all the time! It's not all that uncommon for traders with sufficient capital behind them to run a stock up, pull the plug, then short it taking large profits going both ways. The players just behind the curve get hosed.:frown:

Of all the things I have read on this forum today, your post makes the most sense of anyone here. Amen brotha :D:D:D

[Keventerprises]

Of all the things I have read on this forum today, your post makes the most sense of anyone here. Amen brotha :D:D:D

****, homie, it's all like that.

[in_and_out]

Anyone else recieve an email stating there will be a new pick out tomorrow morning? Lets see what happens.

[microhedge]

I am waiting with baited breath.

If Michael only knew that I am still receiving member emails after I received the refund and that I am helping to expose the DoublingStocks.com scam...

Well I guess he knows now, doesn't he MaryKay? :wink:

[Keventerprises]

Thanks Aiki,
I received my refund today without a problem. It's time to build my own system. I'm enjoying learning how to build filters alot, and Stock Fetcher is much more capable than VectorVest or Ameritrade chart abilities. I hope to take my knowledge and skills to the next level. Any input to that end or regarding successful filters is always appreciated. Building filters is somewhat like creating a recipe (for food or beer) and I have done well at that. Thanks to all for your continued help!

[acanthus211]

:thefinger:

I fell for the Marl pitch. Sent the 47.00 via PayPal 3 weeks ago--have yet to receive one recommendation. But--get this--have received 2 Sunday night promises of a Monday 9:30 A.M. "Double". Why this creep sends the promise pitch is beyond me--there is no follow-up.
If I had googled Marl , I would have saved 47.00. This is a scam--Buyer Beware!!!

[cacaosteve]

The pick is now published on the web:
http://doublingstocks.com/stockpick.php

Today's pick was at about 9:25.

Company: CHINA HEALTH RES A (CHRI.OB)

[MaryKay1965]

The pick is now published on the web:
http://doublingstocks.com/stockpick.php

Today's pick was at about 9:25.

Company: CHINA HEALTH RES A (CHRI.OB)

Anyone planning on purchasing this stock needs to be very careful. You will probably be buying into everyone's selling. I received this pick YESTERDAY about 9:20 and it made a intraday run as high as 60-70%.

Use extreme caution, probably won't do too much dropping today, nor will it make a very big gain. (All the gains were made yesterday) but it will definately take a nosedive tomorrow, when the last batch of emails go out and everyone sells out.

[halfcent50]

I have a friend that just started using Marl. It gave SIMC as a buy tonight. Does anybody know how long Marl has been showing this as a pick? He just started using it tonight, so he has no history. I'm not doing any trading on this - just curious if the Marl picks come out ahead of the email picks (he is a subscriber also).

[microhedge]

I have a friend that just started using Marl. It gave SIMC as a buy tonight. Does anybody know how long Marl has been showing this as a pick? He just started using it tonight, so he has no history. I'm not doing any trading on this - just curious if the Marl picks come out ahead of the email picks (he is a subscriber also).

You would think being post #369 on page 37, you would be able to answer this question for yourself!!! :slug:

[netwrangler]

You would think being post #369 on page 37, you would be able to answer this question for yourself!!! :slug:
Hedge, you are the eternal optimist, are you not? :rolleyes2:

[cacaosteve]

"Tomorrow's pick is one of the greatest fundamental penny stocks I
have ever seen. No Joke.

However, it is also one of the strangest...

The product this company produces is so strange and intriguing it has
been featured on national news and is talked about all over the web
every day.

In fact in tomorrow's email, (which I'll be sending at 9:30 a.m. EST)...
You'll see the news presenters speechless about the product this
company makes.

And it's not some miracle hair baldness cure or some new miracle
nuclear energy source... This is a product I can guarantee all of us
will buy at some point in our lives. (true).

And I cannot say too much until tomorrow, but this company have taken
this dull, mundane product and made it something the national media
went crazy over.

In fact in that same national television interview, a company
representative mentioned "we can barely keep up with demand".

In addition... investor sentiment over this stock is extremely
positive, and almost all consider it undervalued at this point.

(Hint: Experienced traders are estimating the real price of this
stock to be $0.50... it currently trades at well under $0.05!).

Although I must stress... For my subscribers I'm not wanting
to wait til this stock matures to $0.50 or so. That would take too
long... But it is precisely this sentiment that I am looking
to take advantage of for a short term gain...

And I believe this stock could see a 200% or more increase in
just a few days (at most)."

[cacaosteve]

Best to buy at open and sell within a couple hours?

Or best to watch it go up and then short it? CHRI is way down now from when it was recommended.

[microhedge]

Best to buy at open and sell within a couple hours?

Or best to watch it go up and then short it? CHRI is way down now from when it was recommended.

I don't know?

Is this a new thread? Who started this damn thing anyway? He should be fired!!

[microhedge]

P.S: Due to the nature of the reason I chose ETNL now, it is very time
sensitive. If you're reading this email more than 24 hours after it was
sent please don't even bother.

That little gem was the disclaimer at the bottom of this mornings email pumping ETNL or ETIM as you may better remember!!

This JOKE gets better all the time! Way to go Michael, you sap!!

[BrahmaBull]

That little gem was the disclaimer at the bottom of this mornings email pumping ETNL or ETIM as you may better remember!!

This JOKE gets better all the time! Way to go Michael, you sap!!

So I found this board while researching doublingstocks, after reading for awhile, I decided not to get "doublingstocks" service.

I did however sign up for the newsletter, I think I did it when I first got there, I figured they would use it to send me continuous offers to pay the $47 or whatever.

This morning I got this:


Matthew

Company: Eternal Image, Inc. (ETNL.PK)
Yahoo Finance: http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=ETNL.PK
Company Websites: http://www.eternalimage.net/

In the email last night, I mentioned ETNL is one of the greatest
fundamental penny stock picks I have ever seen.

And I'll get to why in a moment, but first let me tell you exactly
what this company is not...

blah blah


I thought these emails were just for members?

[Thierry Martin]

My guess is that when they really want to stimulate buying in a stock they send out an alert to absolutely everyone they have on their lists, whether or not they are paying customers. They must make their money more from the promotion than from the newsletter subscriptions.

[vedema]

Guys...MARL and DoublingStocks is most definitely a scam, and my post explains why. I get kind've technical in a few places, but PLEASE read this post all the way through:

The MARL program doesn't do anything anywhere NEAR what DoublingStocks says. There is no analysis of stocks, there is no "1,986,832 mathematical calculations per second" as the website says, it doesn't compare volume, support & resistance levels, trend reversals, NOTHING. There is ABSOLUTELY no stock computations in this program whatsoever. Zip, Zilch, Nada. NOTHING. For proof of this, here's a link with C# source code to the decompiled CheckStock.exe assembly (CheckStock.exe is the Marl program):

click here to download the Marl source code (http://download.yousendit.com/D644B0D01AB0C9D7).

I'm going to get technical here, but please stay with me, I'll try to break it down as best I can.

Marl was built using the Microsoft .NET framework, which allows multiple programming languages to compile down to the same 'intermediate code', which is in turn compiled into platform-specific code by a just-in-time compiler. In other words, the source code is turned into something of a 'pidgin' language that will be turned into a program that will run on your particular operating system (Windows, Linux, MacOS, what-have-you) when the just-in-time compiler is ran (this happens when you double-click on the CheckStock.exe file).

The CheckStock.exe program is not in itself a program; it's intermediate code that's compiled just for your computer when you first run it. And, just as you can compile the original source code into the intermediate code, you can reverse the process and turn the intermediate code back to a particular programming language which is easily readable by humans, such as C#. And that's just what I did.

For the explanation below, I've included screenshots where relevant. If you're not a programmer, here's a rundown of the Marl program from the source code and what it does:


1. It connects to a MySQL database running on host.wealthymarketer.com and downloads a list of ticker symbols. See image below for a shot of the Windows Task Manager showing this connection.

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/1899/marldatabaseconnection2qc7.jpg

2. It wastes time in a loop until it gets to 100; this is what fills the progress bar. This is the "Analyzing Stock" section of the program. There is no code in the Marl program that analyzes anything, it's just wasting time right now. If it were REALLY doing anything related to calculating/comparing, this would take up A LOT of CPU time. As you can see in the screenshot below, it's not using any processing power at all. How's it supposed to crunch all those numbers when it's using basically no CPU time?

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/7553/marlcpuusage2fz4.jpg

3. When the "Analyzing" is complete, it displays a pre-determined ticker symbol & recommendation message from the database that corresponds with the current date. Today, 03/09/2008, it happens to be ETrade Financial (NASDAQ:ETFC). I've included a screenshot from a MySQL database query browser I'm using that shows all past recommendations from 02/08/2008 until today. It goes as far back as 09/08/2007, but I don't want to take the subsequent screenshots to show all those. I'll include instructions on how to view the database using the MySQL Query Browser tool later. Anyway, screenshot below:

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2416/marlquerybrowserhd2.jpg

4. People buy into this pump & dump stock recommendation that is sent in an e-mail blast later by "Michael" and can lose/gain a fortune depending on their timing.


So in other words, you're paying $144 for a program that connects to a database and downloads a pre-determined ticker symbol for the current date.


For those who want to view the database manually (as opposed to paying $144 for the privilege), download the MySQL Query Browser from here:

Click here for the MySQL Query Browser (http://dev.mysql.com/get/Downloads/MySQLGUITools/mysql-gui-tools-5.0-r12-win32.msi/from/http://mirrors.24-7-solutions.net/pub/mysql/)

If you don't feel comfortable with a direct link, this is the page that leads to the download links:

Clikc here for the MySQL Query Browser download page (http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/gui-tools/5.0.html)


Once you download and install the MySQL Query Browser, start it up and you'll be presented with a screen like this:

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/3554/marlmysqlry3.jpg

Input these values, which I pulled from the source code (which is included above, download it):

Server Host Box: 69.16.242.83
Username Box: stocks_botuser
Password Box: botpass
Port Box: 3306

Leave all other boxes blank. Click OK. On the right side of the program, click the arrow beside "stocks_robot". Click the arrow beside "foundstock". Double-click on "ticker", "message", and "date". Click the green Execute button. To view all ticker symbols, click the arrow beside "stocks", then double-click "ticker" and click the green Execute button.


So yeah, I you can definitively call this a pump & dump scam.


P.S.
The Marl program doesn't include a license agreement when you download, install, or use it. You don't have to click any "I Agree" buttons anywhere, and as such this would fall under the Public Domain. It doesn't say you aren't free to redistribute or reverse-engineer it. In other words, it's completely legal for me to upload and post a link to the source code. If you're "Michael Coen" or "Alex Hunter" or whatever the hell your name is and you're reading this, and you want to sue me, please, by all means, do it. I'd LOVE for something like this to go to court.

[vedema]

...I just connected to the query browser now and looked at the entry for today's date (03/10/2008), and it's touting EVOL as a "Strong Technical Play". Screenshot attached. Let's see if I predict the future.

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/7681/nostrodamushq9.jpg

[DMW76]

i have to ask...since this is clearly a pump and dump...why are they still allowed to have an ad here?

[Thierry Martin]

i have to ask...since this is clearly a pump and dump...why are they still allowed to have an ad here?

We run google advertising on our sites and Doublingstocks.com and their affiliates use that network. You will see their ads on Yahoo, stockcharts.com, thestreet.com and hundreds of other financial sites. We used to run their affiliate ads on our own network but we stopped several months ago because of the high refund rate on their service.

[freakscene]

We used to run their affiliate ads on our own network but we stopped several months ago because of the high refund rate on their service.

:)

[truetrade]

Yes, its normal that the refund rate is so high. look at
what this guy has to say about it:
http://doublingstocks-honest-review.blogspot.com/ :dong:

[bgaarsoe]

Yes, its normal that the refund rate is so high. look at
what this guy has to say about it:
http://doublingstocks-honest-review.blogspot.com/ :dong:

I have been following Doubling Stocks for about 5 months, mostly watching and occasionally buying on the recommendations.

From the beginning, I knew this was a scam, but I as I have watched, I have noticed that Michael has quite a following, and in most cases, at least recently, the stocks he recommends do go up temporarily.

Even Materials Technologies mentioned in the link above, which had been on a steep descent due to insolvency, jumped significantly the day that Michael recommended it. If you look at the chart for this stock (MTTG), you will see a sudden jump in mid January. This was the first time that Michael recommended it. This time, I only watched and did not buy.

Michael recommended it again a couple of weeks later, and I did buy and made about $500 even though this blip was much smaller.

Again, I am fully aware that this is a scam, but I have been following it to see if I could captialize on it somehow, and I am posting this just for curiosity sake.

The thing that has been most puzzling to me with all of this is the inconsistent buying patterns: Typically, the stocks that Michael recommends jump as high as %30 in the first hour. Then there tends to be a big sell off once the stocks seems to have peaked, pushing the stock below the days opening price. (I bought during one of these dips once and made about $1000). During the course of the day, the stock generally recovers and slowly pushes back up into the %20 range. Strangely enough, some people apparently hold on beyond the first day. I have seen some of these stocks continue to hold their new value for a couple of weeks and then finally start to plumet.

But just when I am about to be convinced that this pattern is predictible, I will be thrown a curve ball: I bought one recent recommendation and watched it do nothing. Almost zero volume, so I sold in a panic and lost money. (I am slightly ahead overall but nothing to brag about.) The next day, the typical huge volume came and continued for two days. I missed out on this one. A couple of weeks later, Michael again recommended this stock. This time, it took off right out of the gate and climbed all day without an intermediate sell off. Go figure!

This has all been very interesting and fun to follow, but I have not seen enough of a consistent pattern to make this worth placing large bets on.

All of this may actually be moot at this point, because Michael has not given any recommendations for a couple of weeks, and the Marl database mentioned above has not been update since 04/16/08. Although Doubling Stocks website is still up and running, I get the impression that Michael has bailed at this point, and I would be surprised if we ever hear from him again.

[somedayrich]

what about this stock picking site:

http://www.shortterm.com/picks.asp

they post their buys/sells the night before and keep detailed history of all their past transactions. of course they also have some kind of robot/computer to do their picks. they are highly successful.

is this site legit?

[Pyobum]

I can't believe I just read everything from post #1 (most of it diagonally). Some of the funniest **** ever! lol

Made my day.

I just wished I had done so before sending $47 to "Michael", at least it shouldn't be a problem getting my refund. Well at least this has been for me a quick and dirty introduction into the world of trading hahaha!

[Marl The Incredible]

Beep Beep Whizz.....

I predict....that.....this is the funniest thing I have.....ever......read....beep.


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